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aggiesal

(9,477 posts)
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:35 AM Jun 2014

Why do soccer players continue to dive at the slightest touch? ...

I say that 80% of all fouls are not fouls. The zoomed in replays show this constantly.

Don't the players know that video replay exposes them for their phony injuries?

I've seen 50/50 balls where players hit each other's foot and one goes down holding his shin.

Or a players goes down holding the back of his head like he was hit, yet replays show nobody coming close to hitting the players head.

And the better teams like Brazil, Italy, Argentina, ... do it more often.

The Italy/Uruguay game was ridiculous, bordering on the embarrassing.

Just an observation.

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T_i_B

(14,800 posts)
1. Why do it?
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 06:30 AM
Jun 2014

Because more often then not the referee on the pitch falls for it.

If anything, it's been less prevalent then normal at this world cup.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-world-rankings-of-flopping-1403660175

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
2. Agreed. This tournament has been a breath of fresh air by comparison.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 06:58 AM
Jun 2014

The second half of Germany-Ghana was an example of how football should be played at the highest level.

That said, we're getting into the knockout stage, and that's where things usually start going negative.

BTW, I'm a fan of the Azzurri (and the US), but even I couldn't stomach their performance against Uruguay.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
3. The Germany - Ghana games was one of the best games of footy I have ever watched...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:50 AM
Jun 2014

...and yet you tell to that to the average Yank and they'll laugh at you and point to the 2 - 2 score as proof that it is a boring game...

aggiesal

(9,477 posts)
7. I found it the most exciting 0-0 game I've ever watched ...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jun 2014

Scoring chances by both teams with the Mexican goalie Ochoa stopping
at least a half dozen quality chances with a few from point-blank distance.
Definitely the man of the match.

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
8. I may get flamed for this, but
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:17 PM
Jun 2014

the 0-0 final in the women's world cup between the US and China ranks as my favorite scoreless draw.

(I say I might get flamed because some think women's soccer is inferior. I don't.)

That said, the BRA-MEX match was definitely a classic.

aggiesal

(9,477 posts)
4. Based on your article ...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:55 AM
Jun 2014

97% of the players that go down did not leave the game.

Of the 302 players that fell I believe that approximately 60 were legitimate fouls
while the remaining 240 were in part some sort of embellishment(s). And at times
these players sacrifice a real scoring chance to try and get a cheap foul in the
penalty area.

Until a real penalty is given for embellishment, like a yellow card or removed from
the game for a period of time, the players will continue to do it.

I believe that any player on the ground screaming of injury, should be excused to the sideline
for 90 seconds for "treatment" (hey you're on the ground screaming in pain, go get treated),
unless the offending player is issued a card.
The 90 second clock starts when the player crosses the sideline.

A player that gets knocked down and gets back up should be just a foul, and play continues.

I think that would limit this nonsense.

I'm sure there will be people that disagree, but soccer can be a beautiful game,
like the Brazil/Mexico game, which was the best 0-0 game I've ever seen.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
9. Simulation is part of the game.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:23 PM
Jun 2014

It's a tiresome talking point that's been long since beaten into the dirt. Nobody is going to institute a "90 second clock" or similar nonsense; the sport is doing just fine without such proposed fixes.

Besides, flopping and diving are on the wane as far as I can tell.

BeyondGeography

(40,020 posts)
10. It used to be much worse and most of the fouls at this Cup have been fouls
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jun 2014

The refs have even "let them play," from time-to-time, as in today's USA match where he was very hands off, imo. There have been a lot of hard fouls as well and no shortage of blood.

Italy-Uruguay was one of the only stinkers thus far. I do give Balotelli the award for the most embarrassing performance at the year's tournament, and I doubt anyone will come close. He was such a mental and emotional mess his coach wisely pulled him out at halftime.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. He's an amazing player when he pulls his head out of his ass
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

long enough to perform, but god is he a trainwreck when it comes to his mental game.

BeyondGeography

(40,020 posts)
12. Maybe Italy's goalless draw strategy was making him extra crazy
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:02 PM
Jun 2014

It was certainly driving me up a wall, and I'm not a world-class striker on the pitch. All Italy had to do to advance was score a goal and they didn't even try until it was too late.

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