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Anthony Bourdain often comes to my mind. Today I realized that his last apt was in the Time Warner bldg in NY (CNN address and pipe bomb recipient). He spoke often of tRump This is from an interview with him after the election...
"...But the threshold of acceptable rhetoric right now, the threshold of hate and animus thats being shown at this point this really naked hatred of every flavor, racists, sexists, pure misogyny, class hatred, hatred of the educated this is something Ive never seen before. And its now acceptable! Its more acceptable in public at political rallies than it is at universities, which is where people should be saying offensive shit.
So what will get us past this?
Changing demographics. Other than that, its Bond villain shit. Im pessimistic to the extreme. I really think people have no idea how bad it already is, and how bad its going to get. I read a lot of history. Weve heard all of this before. I think its that bad. It can easily go that way."
https://www.eater.com/2016/12/21/14038332/anthony-bourdain-election-trump-interview
underpants
(186,377 posts)elleng
(135,774 posts)"We are a violent nation, from the beginning."
elleng
(135,774 posts)I have a lot of sympathy, and I believe understanding, for cultures and for places where gun culture goes so deep that first cold morning when Daddy takes a young boy out hunting with him, lets him use a rifle, shows him how to use it I know how emotional and how deep that goes.
We are a violent nation, from the beginning. Im not arguing for current gun policy, but I think its worth acknowledging that this is a country founded in violence, a country that has always worshipped outlaws, loners, cowboys, and people who got the things they got by the gun. We glorify it, we created an entertainment industry that does little but glorify solving complex problems with simple violence.
But I think to mock constantly, as so much of the left has done to demonize, to ridicule, to treat with abject contempt people who live in a very different America than they live in is both ugly and counterproductive. There are a lot of people who are pissed off, theyre tired of being talked to like that. There are a lot of people in this world who, when an Applebees moves to their town, its a big deal and I dont mean that in a dismissive way. Where somebody coming to take your guns away is a big concern. Look, I dont think racism can ever be forgiven. Its a conversation-ender for me, for sure. But if you grew up isolated, no interaction or little interaction, the only interaction youve had has been negative, and youre fearful of the Other, and somehow everything you read in the paper makes it seem like theyre getting all the breaks, especially when, in the news environment we live in now, its perfectly permissible to lie.'
sinkingfeeling
(52,962 posts)bdamomma
(66,154 posts)been personal factors which lead to his death, I miss him.
mitch96
(14,606 posts)on the East Texas episode... Excellent piece btw..
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BigmanPigman
(52,208 posts)He had just found out that the "love of his life" Asia Argento was cheating on him. He was "crazy in love with her" and she has a lot of history and problems. His friends tried to warn him. He changed a lot after he met her they said. He was always an emotional, sensitive, artistic person and called himself a "malcontent". She broke his heart and broke him.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/inside-the-late-anthony-bourdain-and-asia-argentos-lovestruck-relationship/ar-BBMfvTU
There are tons of articles about her cheating on him and the published photos with her French lover days before his death. He found out, obviously, and they fought a lot over the course of a couple of days and then he killed himself. I miss him...HUGE fan since 2001.
bdamomma
(66,154 posts)got it, so do most of us. The GOP are treasonous bastards, and have not heard anything from them about these pipe bombs.
We are a violent nation, sad.
Tactics to scare people into not voting not working. tRump is a POS, he is our homegrown terrorist.