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Related: About this forumIntolerance in action: Group: Officials destroying crosses, burning Bibles in China
From the AP article:
The campaign corresponds with a drive to Sinicize religion by demanding loyalty to the officially atheist Communist Party and eliminating any challenge to its power over peoples lives....
The international community should be alarmed and outraged for this blatant violation of freedom of religion and belief, he wrote in an email.
To read more:
https://religionnews.com/2018/09/10/group-officials-destroying-crosses-burning-bibles-in-china/
MineralMan
(147,578 posts)The Christians always seem to want to change the culture of China to suit Christianity. Their reluctance to accept that western religion goes back a long, long way.
Here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Christian_Movement_(China)
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/cosmos/bgov/20th.htm
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)The current leadership in China well matches the earlier missionaries in intolerance.
Igel
(36,086 posts)guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Is persecution and intolerance acceptable in that instance?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)MineralMan
(147,578 posts)Why indeed?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)and also appears at the Religion News site.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)million plus and growing . It seems like as a group, Christians would be a large force for the government to attack
"China has an estimated 38 million Protestants, and experts have predicted that the country will have the worlds largest Christian population in a few decades."
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)A power move to keep people loyal to the government only?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)with citizens for where they look for guidance, and direction IMO
I know in the recent past as religions have grown there they were working on it's place in China such as banning all religion in public schools etc. .
I don't believe the party ever thought even the Buddhist revival there would explode as it has. What can they do now with over hundreds of millions of them out in the open- a giant group compared to the smaller Muslim and Christian populations ?
Some of the older people now going to the temples and the new churches were raised in the red book red guard 50s-60s era where they spent thier teens not in school getting a formal education , but sent for years marching to areas to remove among other things religious
( mostly Buddhist / Tao )symbols what they have seen in a lifetime!
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)after the implosion of the USSR.
Perhaps the governments in both countries misunderstood how deep the roots of belief are.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)Demanding loyalty to what?
Atheism? Nope.
The Communist Party? Yep.
As usual, your lame attempt to equate the Chinese government's actions with atheism fall completely flat.
You keep trying though, and everyone else will keep laughing at you. I like that arrangement.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)intolerant atheists who happen to be Communists?
Or are they intolerant Communists who happen to be atheists?
Or are they examples of people being intolerant?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Creating whatever false equivalencies are necessary to do so.
You have proven beyond a doubt you are not interested in sincere dialog, so I will not even attempt to do so with you anymore.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Sorry, I forgot that we are not having a dialogue.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)It's to point out that you are completely and utterly wrong in just about everything you say.
I'm proud of my agenda.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)But you said "just about". Does that mean that we agree on one thing?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)But when you're wrong, you're dead wrong.
WhiteTara
(30,166 posts)of Tibetans and Mongolians. Millions are imprisoned and tortured and demanded to give up their religions. The christians aren't special. The Chinese don't believe in religion. Remember?
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Anything that threatens either earns a violent response.
WhiteTara
(30,166 posts)guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)A strategic hate, coupled perhaps with general intolerance.
Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)Mariana
(15,118 posts)for their citizens and other residents. China is one of them.
What do you propose be done about it, Gil?
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Attempting to divert?
Mariana
(15,118 posts)That sentence is a question, Gil. You can tell it's a question because at the end of it, you see one of these: ?
What do you propose be done?
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)The one at the very top of your post in the small box.
It is an issue for the Chinese people to solve. The US Government will say nothing because the 1% do a lot of business with China.
MineralMan
(147,578 posts)Don't tolerate organized Christian worship. Historically, some Christian nations made war against other religions. National, cultural and religious bigotry and intolerance are constants.
Deplorable, isn't it?
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)MineralMan
(147,578 posts)guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Eko
(8,492 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,120 posts)We have American Christians who destroy crosses - by burning
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Mariana
(15,118 posts)The Ku Klux Klan has always been explicitly a Christian organization.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Too bad you're not very good at it.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Any comment on the actual issue of intolerance?
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)If you find anyone interested in discussing this issue, please point me in their direction.