are so delusional. Helps explain things like Trump and climate change denying, doesn't it?

A majority of Chinese citizens are atheists. So how does that influence their behavior?

Why are you bringing up Chinese atheists in this context?

And yeah, believing in irrational things is a problem.

By implication, non-theists must be realists.

Which is why you are singularly unpopular here.

You were given the chance to clarify what appears to be an attack on theists.

You chose to resort to ad hominem.


So, what does that say?

You did what you're always accusing others of doing. We can all see the posts, you know.

For whom do you speak?

Read the thread again.

you reframed what I said and misstated it.

If it's an ad hominen attack to point out what you do all the time, I guess it's an ad hominem attack.

you said:

you changed my statement that many people are delusional to theists are delusional. That's imputing something I did not say. If my statement isn't clear to you, then it's your reading comprehension that's at fault.

and that this is the religion group,
and you talked about delusional people,
forgive me for interpreting the many people as referring to theists.

You deliberately made my statement into something it was not.

Look at the famous and very influential preachers who publicly support Trump. They wouldn't do it if they were losing followers because of it. If anything, their enthusiastic cheerleading has made them even more popular - and wealthier - than they were before.

Climate change denial makes perfect sense, too. If people believe God is in control of that kind of thing, of course they are going to laugh at the idea that the activities of human beings can have any effect.

Right now, it seems impossible that the influence of religion on our political process will decrease any time soon. However, I remember when it seemed that same sex marriage would never be permitted, and that marijuana would always be illegal. Things can and do change, sometimes for the better.

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Whatever forces made that so in the past are still at work today, and are likely to continue for the foreseeable future.

Thanks.

to public opinion. Science, for example. Polls about beliefs regarding, say the theory of evolution, are common. Some attempt to use such polls to argue against evolution, as though people's opinions about it have something to do with whether the theory is accurate or not.

For example, someone might quote a poll like this:

"what people think".
I would prefer rational and scientific thought as a basis.

And when polls suggest that fewer people are formally religious, those are praised by some few as being "proof" that people are turning away from religion.

but birthrates will keep the supply of religious going.

I don't think religion is going away either.

Of course asking Americas what they think about the future is a fools errand.

a fortune cookie?

Perhaps I could have a new career?

lucky number?

Listen with your mind's ear.

There, I did it. Play that number tomorrow.

Thank you for your cooperation.

it was about the future existence of organized religion.

It's interesting to see, but really doesn't tell us anything aside from what people think. It's like asking people if they think climate change is a problem. Their answer is meaningless aside from what the public perception is.

As you say, belief isn't based in facts.

but even I would respond to this survey saying that religion will never go away.

I mean, I know why guillaumeb is excited by this and felt the need to post it - he doesn't understand what it really means, and just jumped to the conclusion that it supports his beliefs. As he has done so many times, humiliating himself in the process.

I pointed out that an article he posted actually says the opposite of what he claims and have endured a whole subthread of baseless abuse because of it. It's nothing new really.