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Cartoonist

(7,507 posts) Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:41 AM Dec 2018

How to Recognize Demonic Activity

Here's the latest excuse the Catholic Church is using. I didn't think the full title of the article would fit in the OP title.

How to Recognize Demonic Activity in the Church Scandals, According to an Exorcist

“By sexually abusing children, Satan desires to destroy the icon of the kingdom of God.”

“Who is going to believe you?” It is the devil’s taunt, according to exorcist, Father Gary Thomas. It is a message to silence sexual abuse victims. And we have learned that same message silenced or impeded the truth of the sexual scandal in the Church from getting out for so long.

Fr. Gary Thomas is the exorcist for the Diocese of San Jose, California.

Catholics know that the devil seeks our destruction and is forever looking for openings to destroy God’s Church and harm souls. The sex abuse scandal reveals that he found hospitality among those who should have turned him out.

“It’s only going to get worse,” Father Thomas said, “but as bad as it is, it has to come out. It is unacceptable.” According to him, the devil used his old standby threat to keep people silent: Who’s going to believe you? We know now that among those that spoke out despite that taunt, the devil’s agents did indeed show disbelief or apathy.
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So, essentially, he's saying, "The devil made us do it. "

Full nonsense here:
http://m.ncregister.com/blog/armstrong/how-to-recognize-demonic-activity-in-the-church-scandals-according-to-an-ex

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How to Recognize Demonic Activity (Original Post) Cartoonist Dec 2018 OP

I didn't get the same message Raven123 Dec 2018 #1

Who is going to believe you? Cartoonist Dec 2018 #2

I think that is his point. Raven123 Dec 2018 #7

Was that last word coined by you? Cartoonist Dec 2018 #8

Why the charge? Raven123 Dec 2018 #11

Because it's a phony issue Cartoonist Dec 2018 #13

Especially in this case Major Nikon Dec 2018 #18

UnderSATANding. Perfect. MineralMan Dec 2018 #9

Honestly, it was a typo. Nice catch. Raven123 Dec 2018 #10

Actually it means they are only responsible for allowing someone else to do it Major Nikon Dec 2018 #17

The devil is a convenient scapegoat Major Nikon Dec 2018 #3

There is at least as much evidence for demons and devils MineralMan Dec 2018 #4

This is the reason for all the discussion about there being no proof a god exists Lordquinton Dec 2018 #12

It's much easier to explain everything with a God. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14

Easier to explain god with god Lordquinton Dec 2018 #15

There's not much in their mythology to suggest the Satan character is into child abuse Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #5

This is one reason I quit the god business. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #6

Exorcists. Iggo Dec 2018 #16

Yes, Satan's the one who's been sexually abusing children. Mariana Dec 2018 #19

Raven123

(5,935 posts)

1. I didn't get the same message

Reply to Cartoonist (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:15 AM

Dec 2018

He also said the devil found a home in those who should have turned him out.

I took that as an indication that the perpetrators of sexual abuse were responsible for their actions.

Cartoonist

(7,507 posts)

2. Who is going to believe you?

Reply to Raven123 (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:35 AM

Dec 2018

Who says that, if not the one doing the abusing?

Raven123

(5,935 posts)

7. I think that is his point.

Reply to Cartoonist (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:20 PM

Dec 2018

He is not excusing any abuser, nor those who cover for them. As I read the article, he sees evil acts as the devil personified, but does not see the abusers as innocents who were infected. They have free will to act and opened the door. Just my undersatanding.

Cartoonist

(7,507 posts)

8. Was that last word coined by you?

Reply to Raven123 (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:26 PM

Dec 2018

Whenever I hear "free will" used in a discussion, I want to charge the user $10.

Raven123

(5,935 posts)

11. Why the charge?

Reply to Cartoonist (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:11 PM

Dec 2018

Cartoonist

(7,507 posts)

13. Because it's a phony issue

Reply to Raven123 (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:29 PM

Dec 2018

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)

18. Especially in this case

Reply to Cartoonist (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 10:30 PM

Dec 2018

Where "free will" only means deciding whether or not to keep an imaginary boogyman on your doorstep.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)

9. UnderSATANding. Perfect.

Reply to Raven123 (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:52 PM

Dec 2018

Raven123

(5,935 posts)

10. Honestly, it was a typo. Nice catch.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:10 PM

Dec 2018

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)

17. Actually it means they are only responsible for allowing someone else to do it

Reply to Raven123 (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 10:28 PM

Dec 2018

Which is even worse when you consider the someone else is an imaginary magical being that has the power to do such things. It's a dangerous mentality and has a lot to do with why child rape has flourished in the RCC for so long.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)

3. The devil is a convenient scapegoat

Reply to Cartoonist (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:27 AM

Dec 2018

That way the apologists who are already convinced religion is always good can absolve their invisible sky daddy of any culpability and by extension their beloved church.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)

4. There is at least as much evidence for demons and devils

Reply to Cartoonist (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:45 AM

Dec 2018

as there is for deities.

More excuses from the systematic abusers.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)

12. This is the reason for all the discussion about there being no proof a god exists

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:18 PM

Dec 2018

The position that you cannot prove any deity exists, but believing that it runs the world in very real ways, but then absolving yourself of needing to show how it works.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)

14. It's much easier to explain everything with a God.

Reply to Lordquinton (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 05:51 PM

Dec 2018

That's the attraction.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)

15. Easier to explain god with god

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:41 PM

Dec 2018

God exists because God exists. Of course the conductor is adamant that he never claimed good existed, just that he believes God exists....

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)

5. There's not much in their mythology to suggest the Satan character is into child abuse

Reply to Cartoonist (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:30 AM

Dec 2018

It's the other side which has bears murdering children by the dozen, or was asking angry mobs to rape their daughters.

Satan really gets a bad rap.

LakeArenal

(29,721 posts)

6. This is one reason I quit the god business.

Reply to Cartoonist (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:28 AM

Dec 2018

“Suffer the little children”. No kidding.

The all powerful god lets babies be tortured, because some woman he created ate an apple. Fuck that shit.

Iggo

(48,205 posts)

16. Exorcists.

Reply to Cartoonist (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 10:04 PM

Dec 2018

Mariana

(14,965 posts)

19. Yes, Satan's the one who's been sexually abusing children.

Reply to Cartoonist (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 11:06 PM

Dec 2018

It wasn't the priests at all.

Father Thomas noted that sexual abuse involving children, both inside and outside of the Church, is especially heinous. “By sexually abusing children, Satan desires to destroy the icon of the kingdom of God. He wants to destroy the most innocent version of humanity, which is the child.”

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