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Eugene

(62,658 posts)
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:48 PM Dec 2018

Be celibate or leave the priesthood, pope tells gay priests

Source: Reuters

WORLD NEWS DECEMBER 2, 2018 / 10:11 AM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO

Be celibate or leave the priesthood, pope tells gay priests

Philip Pullella
4 MIN READ

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be admitted to the Catholic clergy, and it would be better for priests who are actively gay to leave rather than lead a double life, Pope Francis says in a new book.

While he has previously spoken of the need for better screening of candidates for the religious life, his comments suggesting that priests who cannot keep their vows of celibacy should leave are some of his clearest to date.

Francis made the comments in a book-length interview with Spanish priest Fernando Prado called “The Strength of Vocation”, in which he discusses the challenges of being a priest or nun today.

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Francis said there was “no room for this” in the lives of priests and nuns, adding that the Church had to be “demanding” in choosing candidates for what is known as the consecrated life.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-homosexuals-book/be-celibate-or-leave-the-priesthood-pope-tells-gay-priests-idUSKBN1O10K7
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Be celibate or leave the priesthood, pope tells gay priests (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2018 OP
Why Just Gay Priests? Me. Dec 2018 #1
If the church is going to keep the celibacy rule dflprincess Dec 2018 #2
Agreed Sherman A1 Dec 2018 #6
or he could say --- vlyons Dec 2018 #3
He is steering the church into a dead end marylandblue Dec 2018 #4
This is the real answer. fierywoman Dec 2018 #5
Attempts to lead an abnormal, celibate life leads to sexual abuse of children YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #7
I don't think that's true. Mariana Dec 2018 #10
That's my brother's theory as well YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #11
I don't think so. Mariana Dec 2018 #13
It could be all sorts of things Major Nikon Dec 2018 #18
That's what I think too. marylandblue Dec 2018 #12
Not only that they found a network of apologists who excuse their behavior Major Nikon Dec 2018 #19
That's absolutely not true. No psychology supports that. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #16
Makes sense YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #17
Most of these men molesting the boys are actually not homosexual. Doreen Dec 2018 #8
They should just let priests marry kimbutgar Dec 2018 #9
Why the discrimination against gay priests? Shame on the Pope and the Catholic Church! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #14
"Be celibate or leave the priesthood" shanny Dec 2018 #15

dflprincess

(28,475 posts)
2. If the church is going to keep the celibacy rule
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:51 PM
Dec 2018

It would be best for those who are actively heterosexual to also leave the priesthood.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. Agreed
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 02:01 PM
Dec 2018

I wouldn't think that one's orientation would be an issue if the celibacy rule is observed, of course there is that whole being a human being thing with which to contend, but that may perhaps be another discussion.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. or he could say ---
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:52 PM
Dec 2018

1. Let's have an order for married male priests

2. Let's ordain women, an order for celebate female priests, and an order for married female priests

But that won't happen, I know

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. He is steering the church into a dead end
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:55 PM
Dec 2018

They don't have enough priests as it is, now he is going to make it even harder. Celibacy has to go.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,112 posts)
7. Attempts to lead an abnormal, celibate life leads to sexual abuse of children
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 02:06 PM
Dec 2018

People aren’t built to live that way. Sexual urges are universal.

If people aren’t allowed to act them out in adult sexual relationships, these urges will be acted upon in inappropriate ways.

Mariana

(15,120 posts)
10. I don't think that's true.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 02:59 PM
Dec 2018

I suspect that men who were already sexually attracted to children were more likely to become priests.

Mariana

(15,120 posts)
13. I don't think so.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 03:24 PM
Dec 2018

It's easy enough for a priest to have sex with a consenting adult, if a consenting adult is what turns him on. Plenty of priests have affairs, heterosexual and homosexual alike.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
18. It could be all sorts of things
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 10:39 PM
Dec 2018

Nobody knows for sure what causes pedophilia, but trying to remain celibate isn't on the suspect list. The vast majority of child rapists also have sexual relationships with adults.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
12. That's what I think too.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 03:10 PM
Dec 2018

I think men with that kind of urge thought the celibate life would save them. Instead they found a network of similar men and easy access to children.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,170 posts)
16. That's absolutely not true. No psychology supports that.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 10:28 PM
Dec 2018

People that are sexual predators of children go into positions where they have access and power over children. Teachers, coaches, priests.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
8. Most of these men molesting the boys are actually not homosexual.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 02:09 PM
Dec 2018

Sexual abuse has absolutely nothing to do with being homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual. It has to do with power and intimidation.

This is just another way that the Catholics and any other religion use to strengthen their false claims that homosexuality is wrong.

kimbutgar

(23,283 posts)
9. They should just let priests marry
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 02:16 PM
Dec 2018

It would revive the Catholic Church. The church is out of touch with its followers.

After I divorced my first husband who abused me, I went to my priest and told him what happened. He said I must beg my ex husband forgiveness and go back to him because I could not be a catholic and divorced. Stopped going to church and am a catholic in name only. When I remarried I had a non religious wedding. I’ll be going on 30 years in 2019 with my current husband.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,558 posts)
14. Why the discrimination against gay priests? Shame on the Pope and the Catholic Church!
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 04:52 PM
Dec 2018

Just another reason it should lose its tax exempt status.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
15. "Be celibate or leave the priesthood"
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 04:57 PM
Dec 2018

should apply to all equally...but would cost the church about half of its clergy.

Which is why it is a stupid rule in the first place.

Hmmm. Silver linings would include no more priests molesting children and even an outdated authoritarian misogynistic edifice crumbling into dust.

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