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Cartoonist

(7,532 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:45 AM Dec 2018

No, Christmas is Not Pagan. Just Stop.

Major hissy fit. Essentially, all his arguments are: They didn't do it here, so it doesn't count that they did it there.

https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/roadsfromemmaus/2018/12/05/no-christmas-is-not-pagan-just-stop/

Exhibit A
And it’s not like pagans invented trees or even invented cutting them down and bringing them inside. Are you really saying that pagans own trees?

Exhibit B
And do you really expect me to believe that burning a log in a fireplace has some unbreakable pagan connection that Christians just shouldn’t do? Like, burning logs is pagan? Maybe Christians would like to be warm, too.

Exhibit C
And let’s remember that Germans didn’t even come into the Christmas picture for a good long time. They certainly weren’t there at the manger. (Sorry, guys!)

And here's where he really goes off the rails.

Exhibit D
But let’s not forget our brothers and sisters in places like South Africa and Australia, whose Christmas is a rather warm affair with air conditioners and beach visits and such.
So, yes, you can have Christmas without winter solstice stuff. Most Christians always have.
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I guess he doesn't know Australia has a Solstice too. But what's his Point? Xmas didn't start in South Africa, it started in Europe.

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violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
2. It's not Pagan it's Commercial
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:56 AM
Dec 2018

I wish it were Pagan. That would be great. Pagan and skyclad. Think of all the money and laundry we'd save.

MineralMan

(147,591 posts)
7. It's too damned cold where I live for that skyclad stuff.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:03 PM
Dec 2018

Get back to me during the summer. Then, I'll be happy to run through the woods, proclaiming: Nakey, Nakey!

Mariana

(15,120 posts)
10. Skyclad in December? Not where I live.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:19 PM
Dec 2018

Unless you like the idea of hypothermia as a Solstice rite of passage.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
11. I'm just thinking it would keep the holiday short.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:26 PM
Dec 2018

There's a follow up joke there of course.

But seriously, I would rather run naked into the yard, briefly invoke some God and Goddesses and go back in and call my self done.

Christmas however grinds on for months...

MineralMan

(147,591 posts)
13. That's easy for you. For us guys, "shrinkage" is an issue
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:46 PM
Dec 2018

with winter nakedness. Many are wary of such things.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,112 posts)
3. Yuletide and winter solstice feasts predate Jesus
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:56 AM
Dec 2018

There’s a lot of pagan tradition in Christmas traditions.

BTW, Happy Pagan Feast Day!

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
8. Why do you say that?
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:09 PM
Dec 2018

I am not uncomfortable. I am a non believer.

I put up s Xmas tree, give presents and go to parties f

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
9. The origin of all these celebrations is the acknowledgment of the solstice.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:15 PM
Dec 2018

A spectacular example of the human brain observing the environment, drawing a conclusion, and predicting the future.

The solstice is a celebration of SCIENCE.

As a non-believer, it's a WONDERFUL time of year.

CrispyQ

(38,269 posts)
16. Bah! Humbug!
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 01:26 PM
Dec 2018


I have to admit that Christmas got more enjoyable when my sister divorced her religious husband.

MineralMan

(147,591 posts)
6. It just goes to show that anyone can write on a blog site.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:02 PM
Dec 2018

That's a good thing and a bad thing. The good part is that people get to express themselves in public. The bad part is that they so often embarrass themselves by doing so.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
17. Germans weren't in the christmas picture for a while
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:09 PM
Dec 2018

but South Africa and Australia are used as arguments against them anyways?

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