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guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 07:53 PM Dec 2018

US sportswear traced to factory in China's internment camps

From the article:

Barbed wire and hundreds of cameras ring a massive compound of more than 30 dormitories, schools, warehouses and workshops in China’s far west. Dozens of armed officers and a growling Doberman stand guard outside.
Behind locked gates, men and women are sewing sportswear that can end up on U.S. college campuses and sports teams.

This is one of a growing number of internment camps in the Xinjiang region, where by some estimates 1 million Muslims are detained, forced to give up their language and their religion and subject to political indoctrination. Now, the Chinese government is also forcing some detainees to work in manufacturing and food industries. Some of them are within the internment camps; others are privately owned, state-subsidized factories where detainees are sent once they are released.


To read more:

https://apnews.com/99016849cddb4b99a048b863b52c28cb

A long article, but more information on how the very repressive Chinese Government is determined to eliminate religion and ethnicity in service to their goal of making brave new citizens for their religion free Utopia.
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US sportswear traced to factory in China's internment camps (Original Post) guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP
So what's the problem, Gil. Isn't everyone indoctrinated? Major Nikon Dec 2018 #1
No comment on the internment camps? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #4
I asked a question about that very subject Major Nikon Dec 2018 #5
Do we agree that this is terrible thing? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7
Why don't you start with answering mine before demanding answers Major Nikon Dec 2018 #10
I offered my opinion. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #11
I'm not going to pretend you didn't dodge the question Major Nikon Dec 2018 #12
I thought as much. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #15
The only thing you think about is how to avoid discussion Major Nikon Dec 2018 #17
So says the gif(t) master. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18
So says the name caller Major Nikon Dec 2018 #19
I made the same response to another's ad hominem attack earlier. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #20
You pretend to play the victim Major Nikon Dec 2018 #21
So again, you refuse to engage in actual dialogue, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #22
Says the name caller who refuses to discuss anything Major Nikon Dec 2018 #23
Please link to the "endless" posts that claim "religion is the most evil thing in the world." trotsky Dec 2018 #25
Lot of issues at play regarding China Lordquinton Dec 2018 #2
Sure it is. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #3
So you admit to fabricating that part? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #8
Fabricating? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9
You should go back and read your response Major Nikon Dec 2018 #13
Oh, they do, g. trotsky Dec 2018 #14
I understand your need to believe this. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #16
It's because your agenda is insanely transparent. trotsky Dec 2018 #24
Yeah, and a pretty good proof of ignorance Major Nikon Dec 2018 #6

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
4. No comment on the internment camps?
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 01:04 PM
Dec 2018

Or the motivation of the Chinese Government?

I understand why you avoid it.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
5. I asked a question about that very subject
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 01:14 PM
Dec 2018

...and predictably you refused to answer.

Do you actually have any interest in discussion about the topic, or is this just another sermon?

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
7. Do we agree that this is terrible thing?
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 01:18 PM
Dec 2018

I am certain that we do.

So how do we deal with it?

And do we recognize that intolerance is an issue for everyone?

I think we do.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
10. Why don't you start with answering mine before demanding answers
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 01:52 PM
Dec 2018

...for a change.

Not playin your games anymore, gil. If you can’t manage to answer relevant questions, all you are doing is proving you have no interest in substantive discussion and are simply interested in providing sermons with no critical thinking involved. I get that’s how you were indoctrinated, but reason and critical thinking demand a different course of action.

Just sayin’

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
11. I offered my opinion.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 01:55 PM
Dec 2018

Just as many here do.

And I see no point in explaining what has been explained many times.

Now that we have settled that, what do you feel that these camps reveal about the Government of China? Aside from the obvious intolerance for theism in any form, is power and absolute the only goal?

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
17. The only thing you think about is how to avoid discussion
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:56 PM
Dec 2018

If you want to come to this group and give sermons, so be it. But please don’t insult the intelligence of everyone by pretending you are all about meaningful discourse when you so often prove you ain’t.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
18. So says the gif(t) master.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 06:59 PM
Dec 2018

Real discussion is not endless posts about "religion is the most evil thing in the world", or a constant recitation of specific cases of abuse.

But some here think that it is.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
20. I made the same response to another's ad hominem attack earlier.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:11 PM
Dec 2018

But, in the spirit of actual dialogue,

Real discussion is not endless posts about "religion is the most evil thing in the world", or a constant recitation of specific cases of abuse.

But some here think that it is.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
21. You pretend to play the victim
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:19 PM
Dec 2018

You even went to the extent of inventing your own rule for this group so you could pretend to be victimized while whining incessantly when you arbitrarily decided your own rule had been broken.

So yeah, we get that, Gil. Just kinda makes you look all the more like a hypocrite when you engage in such lame name calling nonsense. Amazing what you reveal about yourself, eh?

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
23. Says the name caller who refuses to discuss anything
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:17 PM
Dec 2018

After so much projection and nonsense, your sermons fall on deaf ears.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
25. Please link to the "endless" posts that claim "religion is the most evil thing in the world."
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 08:36 AM
Dec 2018

Because you've been asked to do this before and refused.

I suspect you will refuse again, and try to turn this around to an attack on me.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
2. Lot of issues at play regarding China
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:47 AM
Dec 2018

But this "Chinese Government is determined to eliminate religion and ethnicity in service to their goal of making brave new citizens for their religion free Utopia." is pure fabrication on your behalf.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
24. It's because your agenda is insanely transparent.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 08:34 AM
Dec 2018

If you were simply interested in genuine dialog like you claim to be, your posts would reflect that.

But they do not.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
6. Yeah, and a pretty good proof of ignorance
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 01:15 PM
Dec 2018

Back when China had its one child policy, ethnic minorities were exempt.

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