But, if it makes you feel better about your own choices and beliefs, I understand.

almost as if you don't really want to have a dialogue and instead want to insult. Adding this, But, if it makes you feel better about your own choices and beliefs, I understand.

you would not have posted something that basically puts all theists into 2 negative categories.

If I said that all atheists could be divided into 2 categories, those who are openly hostile to theists, and those who hide their hostility, would you take that as an attempt at dialogue?

One assumes not.

So what dialogue, other than affirmation from your fellow non-theists, do you expect?

Definition of milquetoast

: a timid, meek, or unassertive person

Really? It says nothing about hiding hostility at all. I think you are reading too much into that buddy. The milquetoast people of religion that I know are those that believe in what they believe but dont push it on others or judge others for what they believe or dont.An "unassertive person ". Its possible you are thinking it was an insult but it wasn't. Would you like to revise your answer now?

Just as I did with my sarcastic response to you about atheists.

So no, my opinion is the same.

And both of mine were not. Big difference wouldn't you say?

So yes, there is a difference.

and yours ventured into troll territory. You obviously don't want a discussion so go away until you do.
Thanks!

And did you interview all of the people that you met, or was this an inspired insight on your part?

Speaking of venturing into troll territory, what social scientist would make such a hasty judgment on the basis of one short visit?

Shall I judge ala theist by the behavior of the atheists who head the Chinese Government?

When is my paycheck coming??

Do you have college degrees in religious studies? If not what gives you the right to opine since I have to be a social scientist? Oh yeah, you have faith lol.

At least you admitted it.

You started the "dialogue" by defining all theists.

to say there are not? Feel free to share them with us.

I'm afraid.

Just affirmation of a judgment.

Feel free to read my sarcastic point about the 2 types of atheists.

look for a weak spot and exploit.

Yes, in a way.

Are there only 2 types of theists, do you think?

But you have yet to show any kind of argument that there are not so until you do its moot buddy.

And this passes for dialogue?

Dialogue or sarcasm? Which one do you want to have now guill?

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And you can respond to the questions, or not.

And did you interview all of the people that you met, or was this an inspired insight on your part?

Speaking of venturing into troll territory, what social scientist would make such a hasty judgment on the basis of one short visit?

Shall I judge all atheists by the behavior of the atheists who head the Chinese Government?

I did not interview anyone, I was not there to do that. I am not a reporter so I saw no need to do that. I told what I saw and if you have questions about that I would be happy to talk about that.

I never said I was a social scientist, why would that matter? Do I have to be one to say what I saw and thought?

Have you met any atheists who head the Chinese government and talked to them?

There you go.

But I still truly wonder what exactly you saw and/or heard in your brief stay to make such a statement?

You made a statement about what you see as the 2 types of theists present there.

Those with significant personality issues, and what you call the meek ones.

It sounds as if you are classifying all theists in that way.

where I said "unassertive person" as someone that does not push their religion on others nor judge others for their religion or lack of it. I made that pretty clear, Im not sure why you want to resort to strawman.

to stand on here.

I imagine that you might consider me to be a "milquetoast" Christian, in that I was raised Catholic (including 12 years of Catholic school), and I still attend weekly mass.

But I also respect others' beliefs as well as those who do not believe in any god or gods.

As I've mentioned before, if there is a god (or gods), I truly believe that the most important goal he/she/it/they have for us is to love each other and to take care of those in need.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts - I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this with you.

Wishing you well and peace.

Tim

I don't mean milquetoast in a negative way, just someone who doesn't push or judge others for their religion or lack of. I agree that the most important goal is for us to love each other and take care of those in need.
Keep on keeponing!
Eko.

And I took your "milquetoast" comment in the positive way that you mentioned

So all is good.

Wishing you a very Happy New Year!

Tim

Religion convinces you you're lame then offers (or sells) you a crutch.

TlalocW

Definitely something to think about!

Wishing you well and peace

Tim

It might just be the case the religion is just as (in)effective as other forms of therapy.