Religion

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts) Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:31 PM Jan 2019

From 'cafeteria Catholics' to New Age nones, religion is getting very personal.

From the article:

Do you believe astrology governs your love life? Do you think some people have extraordinary powers of perception that allow them to predict the future? Do you hold that some items – such as crystals – possess special spiritual energy? Do you believe in the concept of past lives?
If you answered “yes” to one or more of these questions, you’re far from alone. According to an October Pew Research Center poll, about 62 percent of Americans believe in at least one of four beliefs the poll classifies as “New Age.”

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From 'cafeteria Catholics' to New Age nones, religion is getting very personal. (Original Post) guillaumeb Jan 2019 OP

So atheists are the least likely to believe rocks have magical powers Major Nikon Jan 2019 #1

No to all four. MineralMan Jan 2019 #2

That does sound magical. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #3

Mineralogy is fascinating. MineralMan Jan 2019 #4

Are any of those Christian beliefs? trotsky Jan 2019 #5

According to the survey, 47% of Catholics believe in spirit energy contained in objects Major Nikon Jan 2019 #6

Spirit energy can easily be seen as metaphor for transubstantiation. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #7

The leader of the RCC would reject such an assertion. trotsky Jan 2019 #8

That's actually a talking point Martin Luther used to discredit Catholicism Major Nikon Jan 2019 #10

Or not Major Nikon Jan 2019 #9

Utter nonsense! MineralMan Jan 2019 #11

Nope, transubstantiation is a specific Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #12

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)

1. So atheists are the least likely to believe rocks have magical powers

Reply to guillaumeb (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 06:19 PM

Jan 2019

Good to know.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)

2. No to all four.

Reply to guillaumeb (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 07:40 PM

Jan 2019

Still, crystalline minerals were my business for several years. They had magical powers to get people all over the world to send me money for them. Collectors.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

3. That does sound magical.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 07:42 PM

Jan 2019

In our area, when there are estate sales that have various types of rocks, there is generally a line to look at the various specimens.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)

4. Mineralogy is fascinating.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:59 AM

Jan 2019

Crystal magic is utter nonsense. Gullible people can be ruled by all sorts of hocus pocus. Guillaumeb, or course, is immune to such foolishness, right?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

5. Are any of those Christian beliefs?

Reply to guillaumeb (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 11:30 AM

Jan 2019

Does believing in them make someone a non-Christian?

A whole lot of Christians who would argue that it does - including the leader of the largest Christian church in the world.

What does that say, gil? Compared to what you THINK you're trying to say.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)

6. According to the survey, 47% of Catholics believe in spirit energy contained in objects

Reply to trotsky (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:00 PM

Jan 2019

It would seem to present something of a credibility issue when you promote the idea of talking bushes on one hand and try to discredit the idea of magic rocks on the other.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

7. Spirit energy can easily be seen as metaphor for transubstantiation.

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 01:58 PM

Jan 2019

And many in the RCC believe that certain relics contain spiritual energy.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

8. The leader of the RCC would reject such an assertion.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 02:19 PM

Jan 2019

You're making shit up again.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)

10. That's actually a talking point Martin Luther used to discredit Catholicism

Reply to trotsky (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:05 PM

Jan 2019

He essentially accused them of idolatry.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)

9. Or not

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 03:58 PM

Jan 2019

https://www.catholic.com/tract/relics

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)

11. Utter nonsense!

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:06 PM

Jan 2019

The stuff you mentioned is all condemned by the church as heretical. Crystal vibrations? Superstitious bullshit, with no basis in fact. Of course so are the official teachings, too. Every last one of them...

Voltaire2

(14,633 posts)

12. Nope, transubstantiation is a specific

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 5, 2019, 05:13 AM

Jan 2019

instance of spirit energy. But we all agree “spirit energy” in all instances is utter bullshit right?

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