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The Skeptic's Annotated Bible (Original Post) LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 OP
It's a really, really good resource. trotsky Jan 2019 #1
Great website for those who are looking for factual information MineralMan Jan 2019 #2
Bible "study" should really be called bible propaganda Major Nikon Jan 2019 #3
Bible "study" leads inexorably to MineralMan Jan 2019 #13
As long as it doesn't lead to reveille. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2019 #14
There's an ASL sign for what comes out of the other kind of study. MineralMan Jan 2019 #34
Thanks. Appreciated. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #4
Is the Skeptic unaware of the concept of metaphor? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #5
Are you able to recognize metaphor, Guy? MineralMan Jan 2019 #6
So you are self-inspired? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #7
I require evidence, Guy. MineralMan Jan 2019 #8
And how do you know that you have all of the evidence? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #9
You are unqualified to judge my reasoning methods, Guy. MineralMan Jan 2019 #10
Just pointing out the possible logical errors that might be there. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #11
.. MineralMan Jan 2019 #12
Yet you suggest you are smarter than the authors of the skeptic bible Major Nikon Jan 2019 #17
I suggested nothing of the sort. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #18
That dog won't hunt Major Nikon Jan 2019 #20
I said: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #22
Thanks for proving your condescension, again Major Nikon Jan 2019 #24
And thank you for proving that your assertion of what I said guillaumeb Jan 2019 #26
Get back to me when you figure out the difference between "said" and "suggested" Major Nikon Jan 2019 #30
All of the bible is a metaphor? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #15
The statement stands. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #16
In typical fashion you fuck up who should have the burden of proof Major Nikon Jan 2019 #19
In typical fashion, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #21
Get back to me when you start answering relevant questions Major Nikon Jan 2019 #23
When I see a relevant question, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #25
Wow, you actually changed my question in order to pretend it's not relevant Major Nikon Jan 2019 #27
And you tried to divert again. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #28
Wow! Now you are pretending you answered it and I'm the one diverting Major Nikon Jan 2019 #29
Reading this thread edhopper Jan 2019 #31
Or possibly allegorical. Or just complete nonsense. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #32
... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #33

MineralMan

(147,574 posts)
2. Great website for those who are looking for factual information
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:18 PM
Jan 2019

about such things.

Thanks for posting the link!

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
3. Bible "study" should really be called bible propaganda
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:19 PM
Jan 2019

Without critical thinking, you can't call anything a "study".

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
14. As long as it doesn't lead to reveille.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:15 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:23 PM - Edit history (1)

That's about the worst thing I can think of coming from that kind of study, which isn't so bad.

Sure. Fix the typo and leave me hanging.

I still say reveille is not as bad as what comes from the other kind of study.

MineralMan

(147,574 posts)
6. Are you able to recognize metaphor, Guy?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:09 PM
Jan 2019

Can you separate actual truth from metaphorical concepts? Are you sure? You won't find the answer at religionnews.com, I can assure you. The answer has to come from within.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
7. So you are self-inspired?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:11 PM
Jan 2019

You seem certain, but that only means that you have convinced yourself.

Congratulations on that win.

MineralMan

(147,574 posts)
8. I require evidence, Guy.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jan 2019

For everything. Faith often leads the faithful down dangerous paths. Truth does not, and truth is determined by evidence.

Have I convinced myself? Of what? I let the evidence convince me. If there is not enough evidence, I look for more.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
9. And how do you know that you have all of the evidence?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:17 PM
Jan 2019

And how can you determine what evidence is required?

You make a choice in each case.

Is that choice the correct one?

You might believe so.

And cognitive bias might tell you that your decisions are the correct ones.

MineralMan

(147,574 posts)
10. You are unqualified to judge my reasoning methods, Guy.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:25 PM
Jan 2019

Eminently unqualified. That's an evidence-based judgment. You have provided the evidence.

Bye for now.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
11. Just pointing out the possible logical errors that might be there.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:27 PM
Jan 2019

But considering how often you give suggestions...………….

Self awareness is critical. And awareness of the limitations of human intelligence.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
17. Yet you suggest you are smarter than the authors of the skeptic bible
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jan 2019

Doesn’t really suggest you are aware of your own limitations. Looks more like a proof of the Dunning-Kruger.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
22. I said:
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:05 PM
Jan 2019
Is the Skeptic unaware of the concept of metaphor?

Apparently so, so the Skeptic did prove something.


So your reply is off topic and illustrative of what some feel is dialogue.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
24. Thanks for proving your condescension, again
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:44 PM
Jan 2019

I just posted the link, but I guess you felt everyone else wasn’t smart enough to actually click on it. So kudos for that and don’t let it be said I don’t give credit when due.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
30. Get back to me when you figure out the difference between "said" and "suggested"
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jan 2019

Or I can just assume your strawman bullshit was intentional.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
15. All of the bible is a metaphor?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:46 PM
Jan 2019

Assuming the answer is no, and it would be monumentally stupid to suggest otherwise, then how do you know which parts are and aren’t?

Since you won’t ever answer either of those questions, the obvious answer is you don’t know.

Meanwhile over half of US Christians believe in young earth creationism, which sure as hell isnt the least bit metaphorical.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
16. The statement stands.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jan 2019

The Skeptic must insist on a strictly literal interpretation of every verse. But abundant evidence exists that this is simply not the case.

Many beginning theology students can attest to this.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
19. In typical fashion you fuck up who should have the burden of proof
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jan 2019

The truly funny part is when asked about who agrees with your ‘all metaphor’ nonsense claim you allege is mainstream, you come back with examples of people who insist on a literal interpretation.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
21. In typical fashion,
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:03 PM
Jan 2019

you ignore the argument in favor of your favorite points, and ignore the substance of the proofs I have offered. And when I offer citations to back up my contention, even from RCC theologians, you insist on declaring that what they said is not what they really said.

So, speaking of funny, yes, it is.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
23. Get back to me when you start answering relevant questions
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:40 PM
Jan 2019

Is all of the bible “metaphor”?

Answer from you, <crickets>

Meanwhile ‘literally’ nobody, including no-shit rock hard fanatical Christians and least of all anyone here are arguing all of the bible is literal, which is the nonsense you have worked so hard to refute.

So yeah, Gil you really did a great job with your “proof”. You burned that strawman right to the ground, rebuilt it time and time again and burned that bastard down again.

Meanwhile you utterly failed to support your ‘all metaphor’ nonsense no matter how many people you think agree with you, but obviously don’t.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
25. When I see a relevant question,
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:05 PM
Jan 2019

I answer it.

But when I am asked to cite every verse that I take as metaphor, that is not a valid question.

But speaking of non-answers, I have not seen one response of yours in my China series that actually addressed the issues raised in the posts. Instead, you and a few other prolific posters veered into unrelated topics as a way of diverting.

So there is that factor to consider when we speak of dialogue here.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
27. Wow, you actually changed my question in order to pretend it's not relevant
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:11 PM
Jan 2019

As if everyone is too stupid to not notice that sort of blatant fuckery.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
28. And you tried to divert again.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jan 2019

Do you think that it appears obvious to others?

But your question was:

Get back to me when you start answering relevant questions

Is all of the bible “metaphor”?

Answer from you, <crickets>


So my answer was relevant.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
29. Wow! Now you are pretending you answered it and I'm the one diverting
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jan 2019

A two fuckery. Great job, Gil. I really was only expecting one more fuckery and you exceeded expectations. Kudos!

edhopper

(34,790 posts)
31. Reading this thread
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:29 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:07 AM - Edit history (1)

I have discovered both Jesus and God are not real, but ony metaphores.

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