this forum is getting very Meta.

It's a post designed to stimulate discussion. The question of the meaning of words, has special significance when religion is the topic, as it is in this group. Often, arguments develop, based on confusion about what words actually mean.

Lewis Carroll was an interesting figure, where religion is concerned. His father was a devout Anglican. Lewis Carroll, in his later years, however, became fascinated by Theosophy, and hung about with people like Madame Blavatsky and her ilk. Much study has gone into his works, from a religious perspective, and he was an influence on C.S. Lewis and others.

my question would be do you have to believe that the resurrection of Jesus to be a Christian?
Do you have to believe in his divinity.

My definition would be yes.

would get my vote as a demi-god at the minimum.
Sadly, no credible reports of same in over 2000 years.

On a daily basis, really. Many people who physically die are returned to continue living by skilled medical teams. Without those teams, almost all of them would be dead. In far too many cases, the patient later wishes they had let him or her go, in my experience.

Fortunately, one can complete an "Advance Healthcare Directive" these days to prevent unwanted resurrections.

not talking about technically dead people being revived.
I mean stone cold DEAD being brought back-show me one credible instance and that "reviver" will qualify in my mind as godlike.

Nobody can. They can, however, write about such an instance, long after it was supposed to have happened, and get people to believe that. Amazing, huh?

It's part of all of the major Creeds, as used by most denominations. However, there are some Christian sects who look at that question a little askance. Some non-trinitarian denominations do not hold Jesus as part of the tree-headed god. However, they still believe the crucifixion and resurrection part of the story.

Then, there are denominations like the Christian Scientists, who have their own take on the whole thing. One can quickly get mired in arcane theology by following that path, which often leads down one rabbit hole or another. Then, hallucinatory characters show up and everything gets like soup - all mixed up.

They had a mission for Christianity, and re-formed it in their model.

There were no shortage of Christians who had deified Christ by that time, but many had gone other directions. What the Romans did was to unify them into a common belief system through the systematic destruction of non-adherents and their documents.

All of those heretics were done for by the Romans. We still have a few glimpses of the early church, but even those have been colored carefully. Christianity now is thoroughly westernized, clarified, and has been put through a very fine filter to strain out such stuff.

Even Jesus got a hair bleach job and blue-colored contacts in a lot of Christian art. No short, swarthy Savior he.

Wasn't that part of the writings of Paul and the earliest Gospel?

If you look at the synoptic gospels from the perspective of first century Jews, there's nothing in them that indicates the divinity of Christ.

but the resurrection was in there.

interesting. I guess the "who is a true Christian" started right after Yeshua left.

It was popularized in Judaism by the Pharisees, of which Paul was an adherent. So it wasn't as if Christians came up with the idea of resurrection or that it had anything to do with deifying someone.

By and large anyway.

Not those other people who call themselves Christians.

Emo Phillips has the classic bit:

my mother was an evangelical, fundamentalist, Biblical literalist. My dh is Catholic. My mother once told him she didn't consider him a Christian, even though he believes in the virgin birth, resurrection, etc.

So, pretty much it means whatever the speaker wants it to mean.

clever lad that he was.

what does the word atheist mean?

I can't answer, because I'm not one of those atheists. If you can find one, you could ask that person.

I'm an atheist who does not believe that any deities of similar entities exist at all, but you knew that.

Some call concentration camps re-education camps.

But you knew that.

160 watts is way more than 20 watts.

120 watts is more than 20 watts, a higher power.

I guess you kind of missed the point of the post and would rather just further your narrative. Whatevs!!!

Could have used horsepower also.