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Related: About this forumCatholics want New York's Gov. Cuomo to be excommunicated for his abortion policy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2019/01/25/catholics-want-gov-cuomo-be-excommunicated-his-abortion-policy/It is clear that the governors work to pass New Yorks Reproductive Health Act is at odds with the Catholic Churchs well-known opposition to abortion, rooted in the belief that the unborn child is a person deserving of protection.
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Catholics calling for Cuomos excommunication seem mostly to be looking for an affirmation from bishops that a Catholic in good standing cannot support or facilitate legal protections for abortion. Many want to see action, not just rhetoric, in response to New Yorks new law, and Cuomos excommunication would seem like a step in that direction. And some hope Cuomo will be rebuked for his own sake, as a call to conversion a reminder that from the Catholic perspective, the governors final judge wont be Dolan or the pope, but God.
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Though Pope Francis is often perceived as a social liberal, he has not altered the churchs course on opposition to abortion. During his 2015 address to Congress, the pope exhorted lawmakers to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development. The pope has called abortion genocide and compared it to hiring a hit man to resolve a problem.
yankeepants
(1,979 posts)It won't change his policy.
Raster
(20,999 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)JFK alleviated Protestant fear of Catholics by promising not to obey Rome. Now Protestants and Catholics want him to obey Rome.
Major Nikon
(36,899 posts)Response to trotsky (Original post)
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Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)"And speaking of my friends the Catholics, when John Cardinal O'Connor of New York and some of these other Cardinals and Bishops have experienced their first pregnancies and their first labor pains and they've raised a couple of children on minimum wage, then I'll be glad to hear what they have to say about abortion. I'm sure it'll be interesting. Enlightening, too."
Prosper
(761 posts)Calling for Cuomo's excommunication highlights a glaring contradiction and problem. Abortion and birth control are both mortal sins in the eyes of the Catholic church. From Wahington Post:
"Birth-control is widely used even by Catholics: 98 percent of American Catholic women have used contraception in their lifetimes."*
Are the people calling for Cuomo's excommunication prepared to call for the excommunication of most Catholic women and their sex partners.
Birth control and abortion are both mortal sins. Just a guess on my part but I'll bet more births are prevented by birth control than by abortion. Masturbation is also a mortal sin just like abortion and birth control and I'll bet it prevents more births than the combination of abortion and birth control.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-claim-that-98-percent-of-catholic-women-use-contraception-a-media-foul/2012/02/16/gIQAkPeqIR_blog.html?utm_term=.9ca6020b7fe7
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Not out of any sense of decency, of course. It just doesn't make any sense to excommunicate a guy you can leverage on a dozen other issues. They're not going to toss away the devil they know just because the president of the Orange County Bingo Club likes to taddle.
Voltaire2
(14,632 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Protecting women's rights.
Being Gay.
Things they won't excommunicate for:
Raping children.