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MineralMan

(147,576 posts) Sat Mar 16, 2019, 02:55 PM Mar 2019

Corporal Mortification, Like Flagellation, Didn't End in the Middle Ages

https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/self-mortification-must-be-moderate-monitored

Self-mortification must be moderate, monitored

VATICAN CITY -- Reacting to a report that Pope John Paul II practiced self-mortification, including flagellation, experts in spirituality said ascetical practices are part of the Christian tradition, but should be used in moderation and under the guidance of a mature spiritual director.

"Union with the redeeming suffering of Christ comes through accepting the trials and suffering of life or, like in the case of Pope John Paul II, with the voluntary choice of physical suffering," said Cardinal Georges Cottier, theologian of the papal household under the late pope.

"Spiritual masters insist this practice must always be prudent and never without a spiritual guide," because "pathological abuses are always possible," the cardinal said Feb. 4 in a written response to questions from Catholic News Service.

Cardinal Cottier said the practice of self-mortification did not conflict with what Pope John Paul wrote and preached about the beauty and sacredness of the human body and the obligation of Christians to care for their bodies.

Want more? Google Opus Dei Cilice. You'll see this Wikipedia page, along with others that show that people are still doing this crap, in the name of their deity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilice

Want a cilice of your very own to hurt yourself for your deity? Here's a place you can order a variety of them for your personal use. You'll also find helpful instructions at the bottom of the page.:

http://www.cilice.co.uk/

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Corporal Mortification, Like Flagellation, Didn't End in the Middle Ages (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2019 OP

IIRC JusticeThomas is mentored by Opus Dei and uses this bobbieinok Mar 2019 #1

Fuckin' psychos. (n/t) Iggo Mar 2019 #2

I myself prefer a over the shoulders and tight around the neck... magicarpet Mar 2019 #3

When somebody cuts themselves regularly, I usually see it as a cry for help htuttle Mar 2019 #4

You'd think, wouldn't you? MineralMan Mar 2019 #5

In most contexts, it is classified as a symptom of mental illness. Mariana Mar 2019 #8

I'm f'ing mortified every day by that loon in the White House Cousin Dupree Mar 2019 #6

Different definition, but very true! MineralMan Mar 2019 #7

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)

1. IIRC JusticeThomas is mentored by Opus Dei and uses this

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Sat Mar 16, 2019, 03:14 PM

Mar 2019

I've read Opus Dei plays a big role with Catholics in fed govt in DC

Iggo

(48,262 posts)

2. Fuckin' psychos. (n/t)

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 03:50 PM

Mar 2019

magicarpet

(16,512 posts)

3. I myself prefer a over the shoulders and tight around the neck...

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 03:56 PM

Mar 2019

.... stole of a big bulky piece of pink fiberglass insulation. If you exercise and work up a sweat that fiberglass insulation can get excruciatingly itchy.

The self torment makes you one with Jesus Christ Almighty and his father in heaven above.

It is kinda like jock strap itch,.. but 10X worse.

Yea,.... Opus Dei.