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NeoGreen

(4,033 posts) Mon Apr 22, 2019, 09:07 AM Apr 2019

A Church That Says Drinking Bleach is a "Miracle Cure" Continues to Do Damage

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/04/20/a-church-that-says-drinking-bleach-is-a-miracle-cure-continues-to-do-damage/

A Church That Says Drinking Bleach is a “Miracle Cure” Continues to Do Damage
Hemant Mehta, April 20, 2019

For years now, the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing has been telling members to basically drink bleach to cure everything from cancer to HIV to Ebola. In 2016, ABC News even paid to attend a seminar hosted by church founder Jim Humble and exposed the place… but the church still exists.

Even the Department of Justice has gotten involved with this scheme, finding a man guilty of “selling industrial bleach as a miracle cure for numerous diseases and illnesses.”

This “church” should have been shut down a long time ago. It wasn’t. And this weekend, members are gathering at a hotel in Washington state to promote their “effective alternative healing.” The event’s organizer, Tom Merry, is even telling people that drinking the industrial bleach “could save your life, or the life of a loved one sent home to die.”

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In a promotional video for the event (around the 7:25 mark), an infant is shown drinking a cup of bleach to “cure” malaria. It’s unclear if that’s what actually going on, but the baby is screaming after being given the liquid.

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I don’t know why the event page is permitted on Facebook, or why the hotel is allowing them to gather there, or why local law enforcement officials haven’t put a stop to this already, but the event is happening as we speak, and there’s no telling how many people will be duped into drinking poison for their supposed well-being.

Blame the gullible people all you want, but when children and babies are involved, the organizers must be held responsible for the dangerous misinformation they’re spreading in the name of whatever-the-hell religion they belong to.

Emphasis added.

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A Church That Says Drinking Bleach is a "Miracle Cure" Continues to Do Damage (Original Post) NeoGreen Apr 2019 OP

If someone tells you God wants you to drink bleach, MineralMan Apr 2019 #1

But what if you just gotta have FAITH? trotsky Apr 2019 #3

If Faith Leads You to Drink Bleach MineralMan Apr 2019 #4

'Church' Advertising 'Miracle Cure' Event in Washington, Despite FDA Warnings It's Just Bleach struggle4progress Apr 2019 #2

I'm curious why Church is put in quotes... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #6

Their website lists their "sacraments" as struggle4progress Apr 2019 #7

Again what constitutes a Church... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #8

Take your pick! The founder is an expert on health food, aerospace, and gold mining! struggle4progress Apr 2019 #9

You seem to be answering a different question from the one that was asked Lordquinton Apr 2019 #10

... Major Nikon Apr 2019 #5

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)

1. If someone tells you God wants you to drink bleach,

Reply to NeoGreen (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 09:55 AM

Apr 2019

run away. That's a bad deity or a bad religionist. That's nuts.

Do not drink the Kool Ade the preacher gives you! It's poison!

Yikes!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

3. But what if you just gotta have FAITH?

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:23 AM

Apr 2019

Faith trumps reason, I've been told.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)

4. If Faith Leads You to Drink Bleach

Reply to trotsky (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:29 AM

Apr 2019

or to give it to someone else to drink, you've stepped fully away from reason, and I can't help.

Anytime faith leads you to do something you wouldn't do without it, you're on the wrong track, I'm pretty sure.

struggle4progress

(120,001 posts)

2. 'Church' Advertising 'Miracle Cure' Event in Washington, Despite FDA Warnings It's Just Bleach

Reply to NeoGreen (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 10:35 AM

Apr 2019

Tom McKay
Saturday 1:55pm
Filed to: QUACKERY

The Food and Drug Administration warned the public not to attend a “miracle cure” event being thrown by group using the name Genesis II Church of Health and Healing in Leavenworth, Washington on Saturday, noting their supposed medical marvel is a highly toxic substance.

Per the Guardian, the FDA warned that the “miracle mineral solution or supplement” is in fact chlorine dioxide, a bleach used in industrial textile production and water treatment. (Screenshots of the Genesis II website advertise the substance as generated from a mixture of “hydrochloic acid” [sic] and sodium chlorite, which is associated with acute renal failure) ...

ABC News reported in 2016 that the founder of Genesis II, Jim Humble, “is a former Scientologist who claims he’s a billion-year-old god from the Andromeda galaxy” and that he discovered the substance in a South American jungle. Humble was, as of late 2016, living near Guadalajara, Mexico, which ABC suggested was part of an attempt to live “outside the reach of American law” ...

The sale of the substance for human consumption is illegal in the U.S.; in 2015, a jury in the eastern district of Washington convicted a 45-year-old man named Louis Daniel Smith of conspiracy, introducing mislabeled drugs into interstate commerce with intent to defraud or mislead, and fraudulently smuggling merchandise into the U.S. for selling miracle medical solution. A judge sentenced him to over four years in prison ...

https://gizmodo.com/report-church-advertising-miracle-cure-event-in-washin-1834190034

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)

6. I'm curious why Church is put in quotes...

Reply to struggle4progress (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 07:52 PM

Apr 2019

If they truly believe aren't they a true Church?

struggle4progress

(120,001 posts)

7. Their website lists their "sacraments" as

Reply to uriel1972 (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 08:40 PM

Apr 2019

Sodium chlorite 22.4%, HCl 4%, Chlorine dioxide, Calcium hypochlorite, Calcium bentonite Clay, Dimethyl sulfoxide, Diatomaceous earth, and Zinc oxide

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)

8. Again what constitutes a Church...

Reply to struggle4progress (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 02:11 AM

Apr 2019

as opposed to a 'Church' if belief is the key? That they have practices you don't approve of is not a disqualification.

That said these are horrendous practices and I do not approve of them in one iota, I just don't see how they are not a Church.

struggle4progress

(120,001 posts)

9. Take your pick! The founder is an expert on health food, aerospace, and gold mining!

Reply to uriel1972 (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 11:12 AM

Apr 2019

https://jimhumble.co/about

Wow! And just look at this list of deeply held Genesis II beliefs!

We believe in...

• Doing good deeds
• Doing what is right
• Good health for all mankind
• Freedom for all mankind
• Enlightening others with truth
• Helping one another
• Integrity in all things

https://genesis2church.ch/

The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing is vehemently opposed to any toxin or poison being introduced into the body, “our temple”, by vaccine or any other means.
https://genesis2church.ch/articles-of-association/letter-of-religious-exemption

So there you go! Heath food, aerospace, and gold mining! Good deeds! Good health! Anti-vaccination! And bleach! What more could anybody need to know?