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Soph0571

(9,685 posts) Sat May 18, 2019, 07:48 AM May 2019

US pastor runs network giving 50,000 Ugandans bleach-based 'miracle cure'

The network, led by pastor Robert Baldwin and part-funded by Sam Little from Arlesey in Bedfordshire, is one of the most extensive efforts yet to distribute the “miracle cure” known as MMS, or “miracle mineral solution”. The Guardian has learned that poor Ugandans, including infants as young as 14 months old, are being given chlorine dioxide, a product that has no known health benefit and can be extremely dangerous.

Baldwin, 52, is importing bulk shipments of the components of MMS, sodium chlorite and citric acid, into Uganda from China. The two chemicals are mixed to produce chlorine dioxide, a powerful bleach used in the textile industry.

The American pastor has “trained” about 1,200 clerics in Uganda on administering the “miracle cure” and each in turn uses it to treat about 50 congregants, usually after Sunday service. As an inducement, Baldwin is offering smartphones to those clerics who are especially “committed” to spreading the bleach cure.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/18/bleach-miracle-cure-uganda-us-pastor-robert-baldwin-sam-little

Are you freaking kidding me? What is WRONG with these people.

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US pastor runs network giving 50,000 Ugandans bleach-based 'miracle cure' (Original Post) Soph0571 May 2019 OP

Cure for what? Moostache May 2019 #1

Maybe they're trying to send those Ugandans to meet Jesus. MineralMan May 2019 #2

Well there are no published studies proving that bleach doesn't cure malaria and hiv so Voltaire2 May 2019 #3

This thread sounds like an attack on their faith Major Nikon May 2019 #5

An attack on their faith? Are you kidding me? Soph0571 May 2019 #7

Yes, yes, and yes Major Nikon May 2019 #8

Thank goodness for that... thought I losing my mind for a second!!!! Soph0571 May 2019 #9

I don't feel an obligation to respect belief Major Nikon May 2019 #10

Hmmmm ... the reincarnation of Jim Jones, no doubt! n/t RKP5637 May 2019 #4

Baldwin isn't the only one pushing this MMS scam. Eugene May 2019 #6

Kick & recommend for visibility of this evil. bronxiteforever May 2019 #11

Religion is the motherfucking best, aint it? Iggo May 2019 #12

British man arrested on suspicion of giving bleach-based 'cure' to Ugandans Eugene May 2019 #13

Moostache

(10,163 posts)

1. Cure for what?

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 07:54 AM

May 2019

"claiming drinking the toxic fluid eradicates cancer, HIV/Aids, malaria and most other diseases."

These bastards know no shame or depth of depravity too low to sink to...
I hope there really is a hell, because when I get there, I'll be earning promotions from the underworld boss for the job I will do on these sons of bitches and their ilk...

MineralMan

(147,575 posts)

2. Maybe they're trying to send those Ugandans to meet Jesus.

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 08:07 AM

May 2019

Voltaire2

(14,703 posts)

3. Well there are no published studies proving that bleach doesn't cure malaria and hiv so

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 08:43 AM

May 2019

by the standards in this forum, that is proof that it does.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)

5. This thread sounds like an attack on their faith

Reply to Voltaire2 (Reply #3)

Sat May 18, 2019, 10:26 AM

May 2019

Which really just proves how intolerant the atheists in this group are. And whatabout China?

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)

7. An attack on their faith? Are you kidding me?

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #5)

Sat May 18, 2019, 10:47 AM

May 2019

or where you being sarcastic? They are pouring bleach down Childrens throats..... What part of that is not disgusting?

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)

8. Yes, yes, and yes

Reply to Soph0571 (Reply #7)

Sat May 18, 2019, 10:59 AM

May 2019

But on a more serious note we have one person in this group who calls atheists "intolerant" for ridiculing testaments to faith. So while I'm being sarcastic, there are those who are most definitely serious about it to the point of effectively calling atheists in this group bigots.

There are those who are so attached to their belief system they feel criticism of what their belief system causes and means is an attack on them personally. This sometimes causes them to respond irrationally.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)

9. Thank goodness for that... thought I losing my mind for a second!!!!

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #8)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:02 AM

May 2019

Christians who call us bigots are like racists who call us racist cause we call out their racism...

I truly respect people of belief. I have a whole family full of them, but I will always call out their bollocks.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)

10. I don't feel an obligation to respect belief

Reply to Soph0571 (Reply #9)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:07 AM

May 2019

I do feel an obligation to respect the right of someone to believe whatever they want, so long as it doesn't disrespect the rights of anyone else. However, all of this is on a personal level. Organized religion is something else entirely.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)

4. Hmmmm ... the reincarnation of Jim Jones, no doubt! n/t

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 09:13 AM

May 2019

Eugene

(62,648 posts)

6. Baldwin isn't the only one pushing this MMS scam.

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 10:45 AM

May 2019

'Church' to offer 'miracle cure' despite FDA warnings against drinking bleach

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/19/church-group-to-hold-washington-event-despite-fda-warnings-against-miracle-cure

Man Found Guilty Of Selling Toxic Bleach As Miracle Cure For Autism

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/man-sold-bleach-as-autism-treatment

"extremely nasty stuff" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement

bronxiteforever

(9,403 posts)

11. Kick & recommend for visibility of this evil.

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:03 PM

May 2019

Experimenting with toxic chemicals on the poor and desperate. Can’t get more evil than this.

Iggo

(48,262 posts)

12. Religion is the motherfucking best, aint it?

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 04:02 PM

May 2019

Eugene

(62,648 posts)

13. British man arrested on suspicion of giving bleach-based 'cure' to Ugandans

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 05:40 PM

May 2019

Source: The Guardian

British man arrested on suspicion of giving bleach-based 'cure' to Ugandans

Sam Little arrested after Guardian exposed massive distribution network of MMS in Uganda that was being supervised by US pastor

Alon Mwesigwa in Kampala and Ed Pilkington in New York
Thu 23 May 2019 19.06 BST Last modified on Thu 23 May 2019 19.27 BST

A British man has been arrested in Uganda on suspicions of “intoxicating the public” after he claimed to have carried out a trial of a “miracle cure” on local villagers using industrial bleach.

Sam Little, 25, from Arlesey in Bedfordshire was picked up by Ugandan police at 6am on Thursday in a village church in Kitembi, a few miles outside Fort Portal in western Uganda. Also arrested were two Ugandans who are suspected of being involved in the distribution of the bleach, which is known by advocates as MMS or Miracle Mineral Solution.

The arrests come five days after the Guardian exposed a massive distribution network of MMS in poor areas of Uganda that was being supervised by an American pastor from New Jersey. The network by its own estimation was handing out quantities of the bleach to up to 50,000 Ugandans every month and telling them that it was a cure-all for almost every serious disease including HIV/Aids and cancer.

Little supported the network with a donation of $10,000.

In the wake of the Guardian’s reporting, the US government put out an official warning in Uganda. The US mission, an outpost of the US embassy in Kampala, issued a public statement saying that it was aware of reports that MMS was being distributed by an American pastor in the country and stating: “We strongly condemn the distribution of this substance, which is extremely dangerous and is NOT a cure for any disease.”

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