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History of religion (Original Post) Major Nikon May 2019 OP
How insightful. guillaumeb May 2019 #1
It's the first time I've seen it. MineralMan Jun 2019 #5
It appeals to your own views. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #6
Yes, but not to yours... MineralMan Jun 2019 #7
It is simplistic. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #8
You have convinced yourself of that, I agree. MineralMan Jun 2019 #9
That "lacks details" is an accurate way to condemn it. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #10
You are amusing, Monsieur B. MineralMan Jun 2019 #11
You are predictable. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #12
I'm not familiar with the word: rassenble MineralMan Jun 2019 #13
Excusez moi. A bas mon ordi. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #15
Did you mean: MineralMan Jun 2019 #14
Z'etes parfait, vous? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #16
Nope. Not perfect. MineralMan Jun 2019 #17
I remember your outraged reaction when I pointed out one of your mispellings. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #18
Do you? Show me, then... MineralMan Jun 2019 #19
Encore, z'etes parfait, vous? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #20
No. I think of myself as a sundae. MineralMan Jun 2019 #21
On Saturday? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #22
What's to condemn? Cartoonist Jun 2019 #24
Yes, easily understood.... guillaumeb Jun 2019 #29
History itself lacks detail Major Nikon Jun 2019 #23
It's a joke. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #25
It sounded better in his head Major Nikon Jun 2019 #28
Cartoonist disagrees. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #30
Thanks for posting edhopper May 2019 #2
oh dear the cartoon doesn't mention the vast multitudes murdered by religionists nt msongs May 2019 #3
Doesn't mention children still being raped either Major Nikon May 2019 #4
Engels on religion RedParrot Jun 2019 #26
I find it accurate and amusing, too. flying_wahini Jun 2019 #27
Pathetically over simplistic. gtar100 Jun 2019 #31
Simplicity is a significant part of the point you are missing Major Nikon Jun 2019 #32
Huh? It portrays religiosity as consistently Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #33
At least the rocks exist in reality and can be seen... NeoGreen Jun 2019 #34

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
5. It's the first time I've seen it.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:02 AM
Jun 2019

It's funny. But, clearly, you are offended in some way that someone has posted something you don't care for in a public discussion area. Offended enough to post a reply complaining that someone did that.

How interesting...and informative in a strange way.

The thing is that it's actually a pretty accurate representation of the history of religion.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
9. You have convinced yourself of that, I agree.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:27 PM
Jun 2019

It lacks details, but follows the process well enough. It is a comic strip, not an apologia.

Again,

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
10. That "lacks details" is an accurate way to condemn it.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:28 PM
Jun 2019

And the supposed "logic" that it derives from.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
14. Did you mean:
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jun 2019

Ce qui se ressemble s'assemble?

In English:
Birds of a feather flock together.

Spelling, Monsieur B.

L'orthographe est importante pour le sens.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
17. Nope. Not perfect.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:33 PM
Jun 2019

But French is not my first language, so I can't readily detect and correct misspellings in French. It took me a few minutes on Google to figure out what idiomatic expression you were trying to use. As it turned out, it was a waste of my time, since it was inanely irrelevant. But, never mind.

Cartoonist

(7,507 posts)
24. What's to condemn?
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 11:39 AM
Jun 2019

The piece is historically accurate. You may not like it, but you can't challenge it.

What "logic" are you talking about? And what do you mean derives from?

As a self proclaimed expert on comics, I see an artist who has studied history and has encapsulated all of religion into a tier of panels easily understood by all but the most obtuse.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
23. History itself lacks detail
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jun 2019

We just don't know that much about primitive religion prior to recorded history which started about 5,000 yrs ago. However we do know some types of religion predated monotheism for a period at least as long as monotheism has been around. Ironically the vast majority of modern religionists will condemn these early forms of religion as idolatry and heretical, yet still manage to get their feelings hurt when someone points out the irrationality with their chosen imaginary friends. Funny how that works.

Meanwhile nature worship predates Christianity by thousands of years and assuming some form of religion with persist will almost certainly still be around long after the bible is on the ash heap of history.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
25. It's a joke.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:52 PM
Jun 2019

That you're so upset about it speaks to its incisiveness. Laughing along with it would have been the better PR move. Your audience is gonna be disappointed.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
4. Doesn't mention children still being raped either
Fri May 31, 2019, 09:51 PM
May 2019

Thanks to religion and its religionist apologists. At least we can be thankful for those offering their “counterpoint” as insight to the real problems with the Chinese atheists.

 

RedParrot

(112 posts)
26. Engels on religion
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jun 2019

Excerpt: Christianity was originally a movement of oppressed people: it first appeared as the religion of slaves and emancipated slaves, of poor people deprived of all rights, of peoples subjugated or dispersed by Rome. Both Christianity and the workers' socialism preach forthcoming salvation from bondage and misery; Christianity places this salvation in a life beyond, after death, in heaven; socialism places it in this world, in a transformation of society.

Frederick Engels
On the History of Early Christianity (1894)

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894/early-christianity/index.htm

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
31. Pathetically over simplistic.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 07:31 PM
Jun 2019

Unless you believe all humans prior to modern science were stupid. Thankfully many researchers, anthropologists and archeologists are no longer following the stereotype that we are smarter than our ancestors. Considering we're the ones making an utter mess of our only water, our only sky, our only land and stealing the resources of this planet from our children to live as we do, the stereotype just seems a bit more like a projection. It's even over-simplistic in its depiction of religion. It reflects the worst of how *modern* humans view religion, not those of ancient or prehistoric people.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
32. Simplicity is a significant part of the point you are missing
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 07:42 PM
Jun 2019

It also doesn't imply prehistoric humans were more stupid than today. It actually implies exactly the opposite. Meanwhile primitive humans most certainly weren't better about managing their resources. In pretty much every regard they were worse. There just wasn't as many of them.

Voltaire2

(14,632 posts)
33. Huh? It portrays religiosity as consistently
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:57 AM
Jun 2019

stupid. How do you get that is was more stupid earlier out of that comic?

Oh wait, you think worshiping rocks is idiotic but worshiping magic sky beings isn’t?

NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
34. At least the rocks exist in reality and can be seen...
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:31 AM
Jun 2019

...so maybe the word/concept that is being discussed is not 'stupidity' but 'gullibility', and if so, our prehistoric ancestors have us beat, hands down.

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