We need a "counterpoint" right now!

I can see at least two more train wreck threads in our near future as a response.

and caused unspeakable harm.

The problem is the RCC was told time and again about the lives they are destroying, yet still they persist. At some point you have to chalk it up to pure evil.

I sincerely hope my inner pessimist is wrong.

the RCC hierarchy has no concern whatsoever about individual human beings or whether they live or die. They consider "larger" issues to be more important.

Those "larger" issues have to do with arcane doctrinal questions which are at the core of that hierarchy's priorities.

I was reminded of that when the previous pope refused to consider allowing gluten-free hosts to be used in the Eucharist. Now, that might seem to be a ridiculous thing to worry about, but it was worried about. The altar bread must be made of wheaten flour, because reasons, so no gluten-free version could be offered. Perhaps they thought it couldn't make the transition to being actual flesh. The mystery of transubstantiation could not occur, because miracles are limited that way, I suppose. Similarly, unfermented wine cannot convert to blood, either, since at least some fermentation is required, according to doctrine. Reasons.

Such are the issues that concern Popes and their minions, apparently. I was roundly condemned for that kind of thinking by someone who used to post her, but cannot any longer. I guess my point was not made.

They will make changes if they start losing too many butts in seats.

I had some issues with that particular lawyer myself, but fortunately the site admins are quite good at torpedoing socks, so it's been much better in here.

So far, they're just closing parish churches and consolidating. Schools, too. Church attendance and donations are down everywhere. But, they're not changing. Just retrenching.

Fewer people are becoming priests and nuns, too. So they just shut down seminaries and convents. Or they import priests from other countries.

They're not changing, just contracting and getting smaller.

Even if true not a good one as the arguments looked more like fallacies easily debunked. Always struck me as more of a bullshit artist.

because a few Catholics somewhere treated AIDS patients well.

Or they could have been excommunicated for saving lives. That's the real message of the RCC.

But I understand your need to respond to positive posts.

You literally told everyone in the thread about some theists role in the aids epidemic to start their own thread, so they did.

Now you're coming to those threads and dismissing them the exact same way. Your agenda is plain as day.

Now, do you want to discuss theist's roles in the deaths in potentially millions in the ongoing aids epidemic?

Religionists do evil shit while being aided and/or abetted by their religion? Human nature!

Religionists do something benevolent they probably would have done with or without their belief system? Thanks, religion!

Some people are just ate up with the doublethink.