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NeoGreen

(4,033 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:52 PM Jun 2019

Antinomian

Last edited Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:34 PM - Edit history (2)

Antinomian
an·ti·no·mi·an·ism (ăn′tĭ-nō′mē-ə-nĭz′əm)
noun.
1. in christianity the doctrine or belief that the gospel frees Christians from required obedience to any law, whether scriptural, civil, or moral, and that salvation is attained solely through faith and the gift of divine grace.


Emphasis added.

Some people even take it so far as to reject the rules of civil discourse and honest debate.

(Upon edit, for further edification): Or even celebrate the actions of those who openly reject the rules (edicts?) of the RCC, and help their fellow human beings in conditions of distress. So that, in their own diminutive act of celebrated heresy, they may exclaim "'what-about-those' purported good act(s) in the defiance of the RCC?". All in a sad, and ultimately futile, attempt to score some mythological (magical? grace?) points.

Just sayin'
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MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
1. We seem to see that everywhere these days, don't we?
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jun 2019

From child sexual abuse to outright fraud and money-grabbing, today's church seems to follow antinomianism very nicely. And the religious right appears to ignore everything other than their own desires.

Oh, well.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
6. Even on DU there are those who "aren't sure" if religionists should have to follow secular laws
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 03:52 PM
Jun 2019

Even if those laws are designed to protect children from being raped by church officials.

Kinda sad really.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
3. Someone said, "render unto Caesar...etc".
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jun 2019

Perhaps you have heard of this phrase?

And the RCC calls antinomianism a heresy.

So what exactly are you saying?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
5. It's fairly obvious.
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jun 2019

Some feel they are not constrained by normative ethics in pursuance of the interests of the faith. That is, some feel it is fine to lie, mislead, or otherwise fiddlefuck with the truth when apologizing for their religion.

Without naming names, of course.

Igel

(36,010 posts)
9. Antinomianism was a heresy.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 04:45 PM
Jun 2019

That said, it was one particular form of antinomianism.

I know antinomian progressives ("civil disobedience", anyone?) and Xians ("the fourth commandment, nah, that's done away with&quot . It's hard to assign that particular heresy to somebody who has no real chance of being "nomian" or "legalist". The phrase originally applied to God's law, not just any law, but it was easy enough to spread liberally.

Note, though, that those objecting to antinomianism are seldom legalist. Almost every person I've known has been antinomian to some extent; and very few of those who argue against it--for example, here--opt for legalism. Complaining about one feature doesn't seem to imply any kind of appreciation for its opposite.

I don't know of any Catholic that argues that sexually abusing a minor is an okay thing. In fact, the entire argument is that there are laws (with child sex abuse being illegal) but there are also laws in church canon which are also to be respected.

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