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MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 09:53 AM Jun 2019

Stupid Church Repeats Stupid Slogan

Maine? Really. I guess whoever is in charge of the sign in front of this church had never heard of this stupid slogan before, and thought it was really clever. The church, like the denomination it represents, is apparently living in the past. That shouldn't be a surprise, though, since it relies on millennia-old books to guide it. Way to make your church a laughing-stock, folks!



https://www.advocate.com/religion/2019/6/21/antigay-church-sign-sparks-backlash-small-maine-town

Antigay Church Sign Sparks Backlash in Small Maine Town



An antigay Baptist church in Maine that posted an old homophobic platitude during Pride Month is receiving backlash, according to News Center Maine.

"Jesus made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve,” reads the sign outside of the Second Baptist Church in Palermo.

Below the sign is a pro-life banner that unironically reads, “Every life matters. Abortion is still murder.”
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Stupid Church Repeats Stupid Slogan (Original Post) MineralMan Jun 2019 OP
Oh gawd.... LakeArenal Jun 2019 #1
A real estate office near me periodically puts up "America - Love It or Leave It"... EarnestPutz Jun 2019 #2
Things like that are evidence of either ignorance or stupidity. MineralMan Jun 2019 #4
Mineral, you always write so well. "Stupidly is irreversible" is a better way of... EarnestPutz Jun 2019 #18
If I remember correctly(not at all a sure bet) aka-chmeee Jun 2019 #6
Jesus wasn't alive to create Adam and Eve rurallib Jun 2019 #3
Well, that's a doctrinal issue, isn't it? MineralMan Jun 2019 #5
The children of Adam and Eve had sex with each other. Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #7
So it is written. But so are a lot of things written. MineralMan Jun 2019 #8
The children of Adam and Eve had sex with each other Mariana Jun 2019 #16
how convenient Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #17
Kinda like the promise of reward and punishment which can't be verified Major Nikon Jun 2019 #25
Where in the Bible wryter2000 Jun 2019 #9
Read John: MineralMan Jun 2019 #10
Only in that sense wryter2000 Jun 2019 #11
It all depends on the denomination, really. MineralMan Jun 2019 #12
They spent the first 400 years murdering Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #15
Many make many conclusions. Igel Jun 2019 #20
Once in awhile we sing the Athanasian Creed TrogL Jun 2019 #23
Nice, but still confusing, isn't it? MineralMan Jun 2019 #24
"God made gay people, too." Ohiogal Jun 2019 #13
Well, see...but...you know... MineralMan Jun 2019 #14
It was... uriel1972 Jun 2019 #19
Oh, fun! The Replace a Word with Steve Game! Not gonna brag, but I'm totes awesome at it. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #21
God Created Boys and Girls, Not Boys and Steve. MineralMan Jun 2019 #22

EarnestPutz

(2,562 posts)
2. A real estate office near me periodically puts up "America - Love It or Leave It"...
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 09:57 AM
Jun 2019

....on their reader board, obviously with no sense of irony or any appreciation of the history of the expressions use.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
4. Things like that are evidence of either ignorance or stupidity.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 10:01 AM
Jun 2019

Ignorance can be corrected through learning. Stupidity is irreversible.

I maintain that the people involved in this church and your real estate company are simply stupid, and irredeemable. I marvel at how such establishments can even function.

EarnestPutz

(2,562 posts)
18. Mineral, you always write so well. "Stupidly is irreversible" is a better way of...
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 04:41 PM
Jun 2019

...saying "you can't fix stupid". The office that I mentioned is a dumpy, little independent office in the more conservative part of a city in the conservative half of my state. They don't do well, but I'm sure we can supply them with enough MAGA buyers and sellers.

aka-chmeee

(1,154 posts)
6. If I remember correctly(not at all a sure bet)
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 10:07 AM
Jun 2019

The answer to that back in the 60's was "America, Fix it or F*** it".

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
5. Well, that's a doctrinal issue, isn't it?
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jun 2019

I suppose this Second Baptist Church believes that Jesus always was and is, based on some identifiable, but ancient, verse in the Bible.

Still, if the deity, by any name, creates all humans, then Steve must be a creation of that deity as well. I'm sure the pastor of that church would tell you that everyone is God's creation. Simple logic dictates that.

As I said: Stupid.

Voltaire2

(14,632 posts)
7. The children of Adam and Eve had sex with each other.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jun 2019

If you accept the premise of some tooth fairy creating two humans out of nothing, then you also have to accept that their children had to have sex with each other.

Incest is punished in the Babble with death.

I assume Adam had his incestuous offspring stoned to death after each child was weaned. Eventually cousins could copulate and that was ok, so the species could flourish.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
8. So it is written. But so are a lot of things written.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jun 2019

All nonsense. Campfire tales of itinerant goatherds. And yet, people still read and believe those fables. It boggles the mind, really.

Someone will, no doubt, claim that those stories are just allegories, but there are hordes of people who believe things happen just as described in those fables.

Mariana

(14,965 posts)
16. The children of Adam and Eve had sex with each other
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 04:11 PM
Jun 2019

but that was before incest was prohibited, you see, so it was all right. A Baptist told me that.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
10. Read John:
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:44 AM
Jun 2019

'If you knew me, you would know my Father also'" (John 8:19) "Before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 8:58). "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

That's a fundamental belief of most Trinitarians. The belief is that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one thing, in different manifestations.

So, yes, there is evidence for that, if you consider the Bible to be evidence of anything. I do not, so I look to what Christians claim to believe.

wryter2000

(47,290 posts)
11. Only in that sense
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:50 AM
Jun 2019

Which is kind of stretching things. Every Trinity Sunday we grapple with what the Three-in-One means. But we never speak about Jesus as our father. Frankly, we have human parents.

If those fools put any thought into the question, they'd have to conclude that God made gay people, too.

I'm mortified at the hatred and ignorance that goes into the world with the name of Christianity attached to it.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
12. It all depends on the denomination, really.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:55 AM
Jun 2019

The whole Trinity thing, and the identity or identities of the deity is at the core of a lot of denominationalism. Disputes over the identity of the deity and its three parts is disputed by different groups.

I offered up the verses the "unity of the godhead" believers trot out. They hold that all three manifestations are the same deity, so Jesus was around at the creation, too. So was the Holy Spirit. I don't believe any of it, but many do believe that very thing, and will cite the verses I quoted, along with others to support their case.

Since it's all mythology, it's meaningless unless you're a believer, and even believers argue different sides of the question.

Voltaire2

(14,632 posts)
15. They spent the first 400 years murdering
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:05 PM
Jun 2019

each other over the true nature of their god.

Then the triumphant faction settled down for the next 700 years or so, until schisms and reformations and such pushed the worshipers of the god(s) of peace into another round of multi-century fratricide.

Igel

(36,010 posts)
20. Many make many conclusions.
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 06:07 PM
Jun 2019

God made gay people.

God made Judas.

Got is responsible for the existence of Hitler and the worse killer, Stalin.

The point isn't that God made people who are really good and people who are really bad and people who are everywhere in between.

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
24. Nice, but still confusing, isn't it?
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:14 AM
Jun 2019

Kinda like 3-In-One Oil, isn't it? All three oils in the same, cute little squeeze can. They're all the same fluid, but used for different things.

I keep a can of it on a shelf. I use it now and then to stop a door from squeaking or to oil small machinery. I find, though, that I use my WD-40 spray can more often these days.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
19. It was...
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 05:20 PM
Jun 2019

Abraham and his sister... Not Abraham and his brother.
It was Lot and his daughters... not Lot and his sons.


From a cartoon SMBC maybe not sure.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
21. Oh, fun! The Replace a Word with Steve Game! Not gonna brag, but I'm totes awesome at it.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:17 AM
Jun 2019

God created Peanut Butter and Jelly, not Peanut Butter and Steve.
God created Proctor and Gamble, not Proctor and Steve.
God created Amos and Andrew, not Amos and Steve.
God created 23andMe, not 23andSteve.
God created Chicken and Waffles, not Chicken and Steve.
God created A&W, not A&Steve.
God created Arm and Hammer, not Arm and Steve.
God created Spaghetti and Meatballs, not Spaghetti and Steve.
God created Black and Decker, not Black and Steve.
God created Sausage and Peppers, not Sausage and Steve.
God created Rwanda and Burundi, not Rwanda and Steve.
God created Kashmir and Jammu, not Kashmir and Steve.
God created Ratchet and Klank, not Ratchet and Steve.
God created Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, not Rosencrantz and Steve.
God created Ben and Jerry, not Ben and Steve.
God created Johnson and Johnson, not Johnson and Steve.

You try!

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
22. God Created Boys and Girls, Not Boys and Steve.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:19 AM
Jun 2019

God Created Slugs and Snails, Not Slugs and Steve.

And speaking of snails, most, if not all, snails are hermaphrodites. Each snail has both sets of reproductive organs. When they mate, both impregnate each other. Because, really, you can never have too many snails! "Male and female created he ALL OF THEM!"

I like it. It's a good game!

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