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guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:23 PM Aug 2019

'Let our voices be heard': Churches march against immigration raids

From the article:

Churches were the backbone of the civil rights movement. Today, as President Trump and Republican allies continue to defend the raids, churches have emerged as the top sources of spiritual and material support to the mostly Mexican and Guatemalan workers targeted by the raids.
Some churches are going beyond comfort and material aid, with their response flaring into political opposition. The state’s Catholic, Episcopal, United Methodist and Evangelical Lutheran bishops denounced the raids in a joint statement Friday (Aug. 9).


To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2019/08/12/let-our-voices-be-heard-churches-march-against-immigration-raids/
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'Let our voices be heard': Churches march against immigration raids (Original Post) guillaumeb Aug 2019 OP
Good for them njhoneybadger Aug 2019 #1
Agreed. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #2
Will it? Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #7
It is. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #9
Citation needed. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #19
I will let you know in 2021, after the studies are in. eom guillaumeb Aug 2019 #20
"Lift Every Voice and Sing" sheshe2 Aug 2019 #3
A great song. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #4
Good on you and your group. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #5
One wonders edhopper Aug 2019 #6
In my view, abortion is one of the key factors. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #8
That is very true edhopper Aug 2019 #10
Arrogance and pride are issues for many of us. eom guillaumeb Aug 2019 #11
It's different when the arrogance edhopper Aug 2019 #12
I cannot make that claim. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #13
I wasn't referring to you edhopper Aug 2019 #14
I understood that ed. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #15
Then it is a destructive force edhopper Aug 2019 #17
The destructive force is Trump himself. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #18
A lot of Christian churches have made support for Trump Mariana Aug 2019 #16
Here in Texas... Major Nikon Aug 2019 #21
What's the difference between trying and constantly failing... trotsky Aug 2019 #22
Dealing with imperfection, one should expect just that. eom guillaumeb Aug 2019 #23
One should expect a lack of apology and no admission of error? trotsky Aug 2019 #24

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
4. A great song.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:48 PM
Aug 2019

Our church group has been providing information regarding resources and rights to an area with a large Latinx population.

edhopper

(34,660 posts)
6. One wonders
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 07:57 AM
Aug 2019

what it will take to turn the majority of Christians in this country away from Trump?

As of now, he will still get the "Christian vote", but less of it.

We can only hope this trend continues.




guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
8. In my view, abortion is one of the key factors.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:35 PM
Aug 2019

Many Christians support him for that, and forgive everything else.

edhopper

(34,660 posts)
10. That is very true
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 09:09 AM
Aug 2019

And they disgustingly do it with the arrogance that comes from thinking they know what God wants.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
13. I cannot make that claim.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 03:14 PM
Aug 2019

I try to follow the message of Jesus. Try6 being the operative word. But I never assume that the Creator wants me to tell you what to do.

edhopper

(34,660 posts)
14. I wasn't referring to you
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 04:07 PM
Aug 2019

I have a few Trumpster holy roller in-laws who are blind to what he is because their "church" says they must support him.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
15. I understood that ed.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 08:41 PM
Aug 2019

And church is very important for many. It is their circle for many. Often, the only circle.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
18. The destructive force is Trump himself.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:04 PM
Aug 2019

Some Christians support him only because they feel he will end abortion.

Major Nikon

(36,899 posts)
21. Here in Texas...
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 09:24 AM
Aug 2019

Unless you attend a church that gives sermons in Spanish, you’d probably best not say anything that supports or defends immigration unless you want to find yourself on the outside looking in. Not only are they a de facto cheering section for Trump, they are the de facto membership wing of the wingnuttiest of the alt-right. You’d be hard pressed to find a more narrow-minded group of batshit crazy bigots outside of a baptist church around here.

Anyone who is desperately seeking a “counterpoint” to the growing epidemic of religious fueled deplorables, is working overtime to get everyone to just forget about the elephant in the room.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
22. What's the difference between trying and constantly failing...
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 10:41 AM
Aug 2019

and not really trying at all?

How would an observer be able to tell if you're trying?

Like if someone made a simple quoting error, and neglected to point out that they were quoting someone else instead of taking the words for themselves, how hard would one have to try to simply apologize for the error and correct it? Would Jesus want you to do that?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
24. One should expect a lack of apology and no admission of error?
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:11 AM
Aug 2019

What a low bar indeed. So much for trying.

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