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Eugene

(62,646 posts)
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:32 AM Apr 2021

US Catholic bishops may press Biden to stop taking Communion

Source: Associated Press

US Catholic bishops may press Biden to stop taking Communion

By DAVID CRARY
April 28, 2021

When U.S. Catholic bishops hold their next national meeting in June, they’ll be deciding whether to send a tougher-than-ever message to President Joe Biden and other Catholic politicians: Don’t receive Communion if you persist in public advocacy of abortion rights.

At issue is a document that will be prepared for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops by its Committee on Doctrine, with the aim of clarifying the church’s stance on an issue that has repeatedly vexed the bishops in recent decades. It’s taken on new urgency now, in the eyes of many bishops, because Biden — only the second Catholic president — is the first to hold that office while espousing clear-cut support for abortion rights.

Such a stance, by a public figure, is “a grave moral evil,” according to Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, Kansas, who chairs the USCCB’s Committee on Pro-Life Activities and believes it’s necessary to publicly rebuke Biden on the issue.

“Because President Biden is Catholic, it presents a unique problem for us,” Naumann told The Associated Press. “It can create confusion. ... How can he say he’s a devout Catholic and he’s doing these things that are contrary to the church’s teaching?”

The document, if approved, would make clear the USCCB’s view that Biden and other Catholic public figures with similar viewpoints should not present themselves for Communion, Naumann said.

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Read more: https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-religion-22e0d1ba299fe8693013036e3cc85c81
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US Catholic bishops may press Biden to stop taking Communion (Original Post) Eugene Apr 2021 OP
Sounds... grumpyduck Apr 2021 #1
Biden is the best face of Catholicism. LakeArenal Apr 2021 #2
Like me! Biden is President of All Faiths. StClone Apr 2021 #12
Odd Mr Lake grew up with nun's tying his left hand to a chair... LakeArenal Apr 2021 #14
Some were! But many were esteemed... StClone Apr 2021 #18
I guess so because Mr Lake will never be religious ever. LakeArenal Apr 2021 #19
Ha ha neither am I! StClone Apr 2021 #22
That these pedophile cover-uppers even show their faces is amazing to me. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2021 #3
Preach from the pulpit ever? StClone Apr 2021 #4
Precisely why snowybirdie Apr 2021 #5
FFS, so archaic and stupid, as usual. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2021 #6
It really makes me sad FoxNewsSucks Apr 2021 #7
"a grave moral evil," Botany Apr 2021 #8
This 👆 Deuxcents Apr 2021 #24
The Church has known and been covering up the sex abuse of young people by priests for years. Botany Apr 2021 #28
Biden should remove the tax exempt status for all churches. Starting with the Catholic church. Autumn Apr 2021 #9
Great way to alienate young folks! I'm all for it (as an athiest)! ExciteBike66 Apr 2021 #10
They don't seem to advocate the same for pols who support the death penalty. CentralMass Apr 2021 #11
Biden should switch to the Episcopalian church Ritabert Apr 2021 #13
He's not going to do that and any suggestion he do is ridiculous. Drunken Irishman Apr 2021 #16
Then he should prepare to be harassed Ritabert Apr 2021 #20
I'm sure he's well aware. Drunken Irishman Apr 2021 #29
Didn't Jebus say "Give unto Caesar (Biden) what is his. LakeArenal Apr 2021 #15
Biden should counter with a proposal to tax churches involved in politics. Kota Apr 2021 #17
Yes! Ritabert Apr 2021 #21
This Catholic nun pushed Obamacare through Congress. Now she's fighting to save it. tirebiter Apr 2021 #23
I am not sure Jilly_in_VA Apr 2021 #25
The Constantinians will keep losing membership Dawson Leery Apr 2021 #26
RC church's coffers mactire Apr 2021 #27
That's actually in line with the RCC dogma. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2021 #30

LakeArenal

(29,797 posts)
2. Biden is the best face of Catholicism.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:37 AM
Apr 2021

What does the Pope have to say about that?

I guess they want to lose members.


StClone

(11,869 posts)
12. Like me! Biden is President of All Faiths.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:47 AM
Apr 2021

I grew up when Nun's were exemplary, when charity, helping the poor, and quiet observation of Faith, were more evident in the Faith. The politicization of Catholicism (and other Religions) needs to end.

LakeArenal

(29,797 posts)
14. Odd Mr Lake grew up with nun's tying his left hand to a chair...
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:51 AM
Apr 2021

So he wouldn’t be left handed.

Nuns were sadistic and cruel.

StClone

(11,869 posts)
18. Some were! But many were esteemed...
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 11:01 AM
Apr 2021

...I was lucky mine were good teachers and faithful helpers to many children.

Sister Amelia, Sister Lumina, Sister Roseanna, Sister Johanna, God rest their souls, led me to be a good person, caring, sharing and wiser. I know there were the abusive, even sadistic, and closeted rape victims, hateful and cruel. I never saw it though I heard many stories. I have searched for Nuns having more mental disorders than the population and that is not the case, and I am open to be directed to such.

StClone

(11,869 posts)
22. Ha ha neither am I!
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 11:17 AM
Apr 2021

As close as I can come is a thing called pantheism. It is easier to accept that what we see, and know, and learn in the future, about the cosmos as it exists (no God needed). If you can just accept that the universe exists, and how it came to be is the real mystery. Ancient man added a middleman, God, to make sense of it. The Universe exits period, we do not know all its secrets and that is our journey.

snowybirdie

(5,627 posts)
5. Precisely why
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:39 AM
Apr 2021

Fewer and fewer attend Catholic churches these days. Politicizing religion is unconstitutional. Silly old men.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,787 posts)
7. It really makes me sad
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:41 AM
Apr 2021

that so many people have such malleable minds that they remain members of that kind of cult, uh, "church".

Seems to me that the Archbishop's outrage would be more useful if directed at finally putting an end to the buggering of children by Catholic priests.

If for no other reason than to save the millions of dollars of hush money they pay out.

Botany

(72,474 posts)
8. "a grave moral evil,"
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:44 AM
Apr 2021

Last edited Wed Apr 28, 2021, 11:50 AM - Edit history (1)

Such as Catholic Priests molesting young boys and then hiding that abuse from being known.

Botany

(72,474 posts)
28. The Church has known and been covering up the sex abuse of young people by priests for years.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 11:59 AM
Apr 2021

I know a lawyer who won a big case against the Catholic Church for sex abuse of a minor and he
was contacted by victims and victims families from all over America and he would ask them one
question. And that was, "Did you cash the check?" If the answer was yes he had to tell them that
there was nothing he could do because by cashing the check ($5,000) they then signed off on a
iron clad agreement on not having any future claims against the Catholic Church.

Ritabert

(744 posts)
13. Biden should switch to the Episcopalian church
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:48 AM
Apr 2021

I left the church 50 years ago after the hypocrisy of banning birth control coupled with covering up for pedophile priests. Enough's enough.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
16. He's not going to do that and any suggestion he do is ridiculous.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:55 AM
Apr 2021

Biden has made it clear that his Catholicism is very important to him. That's just a silly suggestion.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
29. I'm sure he's well aware.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 12:10 PM
Apr 2021

Why do you assume he's naive to what his political ideology means for some people within the church?

tirebiter

(2,587 posts)
23. This Catholic nun pushed Obamacare through Congress. Now she's fighting to save it.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 11:19 AM
Apr 2021

Joe’s got friends in high places

When Sister Simone Campbell pulled me into her office, nestled near the U.S. Capitol Building, she seemed distracted. She was engaged in conversation with an assistant, listening intently as other staffers at NETWORK — the Catholic social justice lobby that Campbell runs — bustled by outside the door. But her eye twitched toward a thick stack of papers piled atop her desk: the newest draft of the Republican Party’s attempt to replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA), released to the public just an hour before.

How a religious “rock star” is countering Trump’s agenda.
JACK JENKINS
JUN 30, 2017, 12:01 PM


https://archive.thinkprogress.org/simone-campbell-health-care-663083582f55/

mactire

(126 posts)
27. RC church's coffers
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 11:46 AM
Apr 2021

Years ago an ex-priest explained to me that the church has been guilty of moral turpitude for a long time, and it takes a phony, hypocritical position in determining who is or isn’t “devout”. Their pro-life stance is a lie and a distraction because they can’t afford to lose their flock and the money they provide, especially in paying off all the $ millions indebted for lawsuits and settlements for their abuses around the world.They can’t control the victims of abuses seeking retribution through the courts, but they can still pull the emotional strings with a “pro-birth” stance with those remaining under their spell . They never take issue with “pro-life” issues affecting all of us like the climate crisis, wars, racism, refugees seeking sanctuary , etc. It’s painful to realize how many catholics voted for trump and other Republicans because they didn’t see how easy it is to be exploited by this situation.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,170 posts)
30. That's actually in line with the RCC dogma.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 12:23 PM
Apr 2021

One is not supposed to take communion when they have a mortal sin on their soul. Support for abortion has been determined to be a mortal sin by the RCC, so, if one supports abortion, they are not in the proper state to receive communion. Sure, you can go to confession, but the RCC is also clear that if you confess a mortal sin that you have no intent to try and stop committing that you aren't forgiven.

Divorced people aren't supposed to receive communion either.

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