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From the article:
Fast-forward to the present: What a grift that was! Many of the most prominent New Atheists turned out to be nothing more than self-aggrandizing, dogmatic, irascible, censorious, morally compromised people who, at every opportunity, have propped up the powerful over the powerless, the privileged over the marginalized......
https://www.salon.com/2021/06/05/how-the-new-atheists-merged-with-the-far-right-a-story-of-intellectual-grift-and-abject-surrender/
Some people are looking to get rich. Some love power. Some, as the article illustrates, are misogynists or racists.
I judge people by their actions, not their professed positions.
hunter
(38,919 posts)Religious or areligious isn't so important to them.
Personally I'm most irritated by those atheists who have abandoned religion by name but kept all the baggage.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)And an excellent observation.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)Religion has never stopped it, but neither has lack of a religion.
Doodley
(10,360 posts)go along with all these right-wing anti-science conspiracy theories.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)hunter
(38,919 posts)That's the greatest, perhaps fatal, flaw of the U.S.A...
...our tolerance of anti-intellectualism.
There's no good reason to tolerate these cruel stupid and ignorant people.
Doc Sportello
(7,962 posts)In his first best seller he took on philosophical questions that some of the titans like Bertrand Russell spent entire tomes on - but HE answered them in a few paragraphs. As I remember, his whole resume to that point was that of a master's level student. I think there was a growing wave of atheism when he came along and he took advantage as one of its leading voices. Unfortunately it appears his hubris has allowed a certain intellectual laziness, which is manifesting itself as he tries to get on another wave, one that is dangerous.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)It does not matter if the person is a theist or an atheist, intolerance is the issue. Racism is simply one manifestation of intolerance.
Doodley
(10,360 posts)guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)But in practice, racists can be found everywhere.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)I've read the book, and one character actually says that the coming battle will be between tolerance and intolerance.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)But it's laughably reductive.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)and simplistic, but intolerance of difference is the basis of all struggle.
And the larger point is that no group is free of intolerance. In this case, thieves will use their perceived identity to help them steal from members of their group. Like the millionaire pastors.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Saying something doesn't make it true, my dude.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Reality bears out that observation.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)I'm telling you it doesn't.
LostOne4Ever
(9,596 posts)I don't know if Julia Serano is a non-believer or not but I love her too!
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)When they came for the Muslims, I was not a Muslim, so I did not speak out.
When they came for the Immigrants, I was not an Immigrant, so I did not speak out.
When they came for the Atheists, there was no one left to speak out.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)No one is advocating that we should accept, or tolerate, hate groups, but we must accept that we can all have different viewpoints in matters of faith, or non-faith.