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Duty to warn: Who JD Vance really is (Original Post)
struggle4progress
Aug 9
OP
Fascists will use religion, or nationalism, or whatever reaches their audience.
guillaumeb
Aug 14
#3
TommieMommy
(980 posts)1. Yes, these are very scary delusional people
pat_k
(10,669 posts)2. Somehow, it's always even worse than you can imagine.
It goes so much further than the horrors of Project 2025
Opinion
Michelle Goldberg
JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman
Aug. 5, 2024
Paywall free link to NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.xGes.1_ONuyrQ-M2p&smid=url-share
. . .
Unhumans, an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
(pat_k Bannon wrote the forward, Don Jr. and Tucker C other blurbs endorsing)
As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, great men of means are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in Unhumans is not subtle. Our study of history has brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the unhumans, write Posobiec and Lisec.
One of their books heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the countrys 1930s civil war. The authors call him a great man of history and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesnt work against the unhuman threat: We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.
Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the Jan. 6 insurrection. Unhumans lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allendes elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.
Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, theres long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, its extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
. . .
Unhumans, an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
(pat_k Bannon wrote the forward, Don Jr. and Tucker C other blurbs endorsing)
As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, great men of means are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in Unhumans is not subtle. Our study of history has brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the unhumans, write Posobiec and Lisec.
One of their books heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the countrys 1930s civil war. The authors call him a great man of history and compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesnt work against the unhuman threat: We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.
Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the Jan. 6 insurrection. Unhumans lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allendes elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.
Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, theres long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, its extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
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guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)3. Fascists will use religion, or nationalism, or whatever reaches their audience.
All part of creating an "us versus them" mentality and demonizing the "other".
Any belief system can and will be used.
czarjak
(12,342 posts)4. Finally, Southern Baptists & Catholics are coming together though?