Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
7 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,792 posts)
1. "Family and scholars horrified by movie". Bad link, here is the correct one and excerpt
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 04:59 AM
Oct 26
https://vision.org.au/news/bonhoeffer-family-horrified-by-new-movie/

You pasted the link twice and didn't check. That makes the page load but then it can't be scrolled or read. Attention to detail is important.

[...]A number of Bonhoeffer scholars have also signed letters denouncing the theologian’s American biographer Eric Metaxas whose book that sold more than a million copies was titled Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy. The scholars also accused so-called Christian nationalists of twisting the theologian’s writings to serve their cause.

“From Project 2025 to violent political rhetoric, the legacy of German pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer is being invoked this election season on behalf of Christian nationalism. It is a dangerous and grievous misuse of his theology and life. As an international group of Bonhoeffer scholars, we warn against it.”

The family letter concludes: “At a time when intolerance, antisemitism and other forms of racism and xenophobia, nationalism and authoritarianism are on the rise around the world, we believe it is important to clarify publicly: Dietrich Bonhoeffer fought narrow-mindedness, oppression, and exclusion throughout his life.”

“The abuse of Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s legacy by Christian nationalists and others is of such cynicism that we are unlikely to convince these demagogues. But we call on American voters in particular: Do not be deceived. Look carefully at history. Only by working together, in the spirit of freedom and concern for others, will we be able to solve our problems. This is what Dietrich Bonhoeffer stands for.”

Docreed2003

(17,682 posts)
4. I read Bonhoeffer extensively in college during the 90's
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 07:03 AM
Oct 26

I began noticing even then that far right evangelicals were twisting his writings for their purposes. It doesn't surprise me that they continue to do so, but it is frightening and sad that the would be fascists could be so far off the mark with their portrayal of Bonhoeffer's legacy.

hlthe2b

(105,929 posts)
2. I hope people will read your link. Honestly, your subject line doesn't let DUers know the import of this story...
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 05:13 AM
Oct 26

which is incredibly relevant today. Why not edit to use the actual title in the article: "Bonhoeffer Family Horrified By New Movie?"

John1956PA

(3,310 posts)
3. Pastor Bonhoeffer wrote that fascism promotes stupidity among the masses.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 05:43 AM
Oct 26

The Pastor wrote that there is no progress which can be made by arguing with a willfully stupid person. Such people bind together. They will adhere to a fascist leader who placates them and rallies them to persecute people who are critical thinkers.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,792 posts)
5. magas tend lower in education so they hate the "elites". magas tired of being wrong
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 08:15 AM
Oct 26

magas are tired of constantly being wrong about history and science. That's a big reason they love tRump, who said "We love the poorly educated". Many of them engage in magical thinking, that there is a simple explanation and solution for every problem. Frequently they invoke powerful outside entities "fer or agin" them, like old men in the sky or the Deep State or the "other" (immigrants, non-whites). They deny science if it thwarts their self-centered desires.

It's why they reject climate science: it is too difficult or complex for them to take the effort to understand, so they seize on stupidly simple concepts: 2% of scientists conveniently agree with them and their consumptive ways, so the 98% must be wrong and corrupt and just lying so they can get grants for studies. The earth was hotter in the time of dinosaurs (hint for magas: there were no mammals then). The output of the sun varies so that must explain it. And on and on.

Authoritarians and dictators offer simple solutions for simple people.

stillspkg

(103 posts)
6. Thanks for reading
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 09:08 AM
Oct 26

Some women at church were planning to see it until they saw this article. And, who actually does a movie about someone famous without getting an "ok" from the family? I know Republicans.

Sorry about the double link. I'm not aware of how actually to post things, I'm just glad to get the word out.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,372 posts)
7. Metaxas is a huge Trump fan, who assaulted a man for saying "Fuck Trump, fuck you"
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 03:48 PM
Oct 27
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Metaxas

No one should believe what he says about anyone religious.
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Religion»Bonhoeffer Family Horrifi...