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From Saturday morning through Monday night, more than 110 similar complaints about commanders in every branch of the military had been logged by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).
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One complainant identified themselves as a non-commissioned officer (NCO) in a unit currently outside the Iran combat zone but in Ready-Support status, deployable at any time. The NCO said they were Christian and emailed the MRFF on behalf of 15 troops, including at least 11 Christians, one Muslim, and one Jew. (Full email printed below.)
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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has enshrined evangelical Christianity at the uppermost levels of the U.S. military, airing monthly prayer meetings throughout the Pentagon. Last year, the Pentagon confirmed to me that Hegseth attends a weekly White House Bible study. Its led by a preacher who says God commands America to support Israel.
https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for
I don't know what's worse - Hegseth cynically being a showy "Christian" who thinks that means fighting other religions, or the commanders below him who eat that up and actually believe it.
raging moderate
(4,613 posts)This is blasphemy that is almost identical to the vicious tyranny of the medieval narcissistic rulers.
hvn_nbr_2
(6,784 posts)The Bible says that no one knows when. These religious freaks and fanatics think they know because they think they can force God's hand simply by saying that their war is Armageddon.
And re: your subject line: They not only think they have the RIGHT to order God around. They think they have the POWER to order God around.
multigraincracker
(37,360 posts)UpInArms
(54,692 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:57 AM - Edit history (1)
Eta
I wish all of the end timers would just rapture themselves off my planet
surfered
(12,860 posts)According to Scripture, when Christ comes again, he does so in Israel. That is why these Evangelicals support Israel. They need for it to exist for Christs return when they will be raptured while all the Jews die.
Bmoboy
(629 posts)Why do the killers not just kill themselves and go to Jesus? Why do they need to kill all the rest of us first?
Ray Bruns
(6,197 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(22,789 posts)And nobody else.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,008 posts)Look, it's clear you have something against either the MRFF or Jonathan Larsen - who knows why. A story is broken by a journalist on Monday night, and you're immediately over any thread mentioning it, trying to pretend the journalist is just "a blogger" or "some guy". You didn't check him out yourself - fine, not everyone has time. But you obviously do have the time, but you've chosen to spend it trying to downplay this story.
Why?
Fiendish Thingy
(22,789 posts)Thats my beef, nothing personal against Larsen or his alleged source.
Im guessing the MRFF is getting flooded by media requests for interviews, and if they can provide corroborated evidence, then I would expect the story to spread. If it can be verified, then I hope it does.
But in this age of AI, clickbait and misinformation, it is critical that we take a breath and use critical thinking before accepting something as true and factual.
Im sure you have seen false reports spread like wildfire here on DU. I remember one report of the death of a celebrity or politician made it to the top of the Greatest Page, and then it was retracted as unconfirmed.
Other false reports, proven false by numerous DUers providing evidence to the OP, have nevertheless risen to the top of the Greatest Page without a retraction/deletion, misleading hundreds who recd the thread without seeing the evidence it was false.
There is nothing wrong with taking a breath when a single sourced report is breaking.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,008 posts)of the US military. Sure, "take a breath" - which means investigating the credentials of the source. It turns out it's a well-known journalist (MRFF calls him "veteran" ), with a trustworthy history of who he's worked for, and a history of working with MRFF. So it's not surprising he's first out of the blocks with a story of theirs.
And look, now it's Tuesday morning, MRFF's own write-up is on their own site: https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/2026/03/mrff-inundated-with-complaints-of-gleeful-commanders-telling-troops-iran-war-is-part-of-gods-divine-plan-to-usher-in-the-return-of-jesus-christ/
and at their link, they link back to Larsen's substack article: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/MRFF-Inundated-with-Complaints-of-Gleeful-Commanders-Telling-Troops-Iran-War-is--Part-of-God-s-Divine-Plan--to-Usher-in-Return-o.html?soid=1101766362531&aid=3OTPFAZxIrI
Fiendish Thingy
(22,789 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,008 posts)https://www.commondreams.org/news/iran-armageddon-military
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a70590863/jesus-trump-military-iran-war/
Asia Times: https://asiatimes.com/2026/03/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for-armageddon-return-of-jesus/
New Republic: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/military-leaders-iran-war-trump-172548999.html
Fiendish Thingy
(22,789 posts)Eugene
(67,029 posts)The Military Religious Freedom Foundation has been dealing with these complaints for several months. Even before this, MRFF were easy enough to find.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,789 posts)At the time of my original post, only one blog was reporting it.
LetMyPeopleVote
(178,273 posts)This story could be true. As a Jew, it is common knowledge the support from the Amercian religious right is due in some part due to a belief that the existence of Israel is essential for their belief in a second coming.
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/apocalypse-another-disturbing-reason-behind-right-wings-pro-israel-obsession
�These are the folks who believe that there will be a millennium in the future, a golden age, where Christ reigns on Earth, [and] they believe that before Christ will return, there will be a tribulation where Christ defeats evil,� she said. �There will be natural disasters and wars, and perhaps an Antichrist, as the book of Revelations notes. Then at the end of that period, the people of the Mosaic covenant, including the Jews, will convert. Then after their conversion, the great millennium starts.�
She continued: �You have this group of people looking around for signs of the end time, and in the 20th century when Israel was founded, this was seen as a major sign. This was electrifying for that community because the gathering of all the Jews in exile to the Holy Land is a prerequisite for all of these events unfolding. So for the subset of evangelicals in the 20th century, support for Israel became a really, really important political position.�
And as evangelical Christianity grew into a central part of the GOP�s coalition, pro-Israel policies became cemented in the party�s ideology.
The alliance between the evangelicals and pro-Israeli Jews, though, is a peculiar partnership. The Christians enter into the bargain with the assumption that, when they reach their goal of the apocalypse, any Jews will either become Christians or go to hell. But their pro-Israel allies don�t seem to mind this much, perhaps because they don�t believe this version of the apocalypse will ever actually come to be � and as long as it is just a fantasy, their interests and those of evangelicals remain aligned.
For example, the US embassy in Israel by trump to appease these nut cases. This story may be crazy but the nut cases who want an apocalypse worry me