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icymist

(15,888 posts) Sat Jun 29, 2013, 08:41 PM Jun 2013

Irish People 'Have Become Pagan' Say Association of Catholic Priests

Irish people have "to all intents and purposes, become pagan” according to the Association of Catholic Priests (ACP) .

The report from the Irish Roman Catholic clergy and published on the ACP website blames problems the church is facing on people's lack of time or interest and faith rather than its own institution.

It said: “There seems to be a substantial number of bishops, and some priests, who believe that the problems we are facing are not due to any difficulties in the Church or with the priesthood, but are caused by a lack of faith in the people.

"The people, they told us, have bought into the evils of materialism and consumerism, and don’t have time or interest in faith any more. They have, to all intents and purposes, become pagan. And they believe that ‘evangelisation’ is the answer."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/24/irish-people-pagan-association-of-catholic-priests-_n_3489705.html?&utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

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Irish People 'Have Become Pagan' Say Association of Catholic Priests (Original Post) icymist Jun 2013 OP

Their lack of interest in Catholicism Ilsa Jun 2013 #1

Yeah, I loved the part where they were blaming a "lack of faith" on the people. icymist Jun 2013 #2

Here's why the Irish have turned to the dark side. postulater Jun 2013 #3

I would hardly call paganism the dark side. icymist Jun 2013 #4

Materialism and consumerism are hardly Pagan values. Still Blue in PDX Jul 2013 #5

Johnny priest needs to learn some on shamanic cultures, they are all deeply spiritual. toby jo Jul 2013 #6

Ilsa

(62,231 posts)

1. Their lack of interest in Catholicism

Reply to icymist (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 08:54 PM

Jun 2013

means they are pagan?

That's like saying it must be night because it is too cloudy to see the sun.

icymist

(15,888 posts)

2. Yeah, I loved the part where they were blaming a "lack of faith" on the people.

Reply to Ilsa (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:02 PM

Jun 2013

Like it was nothing that the church or their priests ever did that drove the people away.

postulater

(5,075 posts)

3. Here's why the Irish have turned to the dark side.

Reply to icymist (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:04 PM

Jun 2013

icymist

(15,888 posts)

4. I would hardly call paganism the dark side.

Reply to postulater (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:20 PM

Jun 2013

Magic is like money, it's not how much you have, it's what you do with it.

Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)

5. Materialism and consumerism are hardly Pagan values.

Reply to icymist (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:06 PM

Jul 2013

Quite the opposite, in fact. Just sayin' - speaking as a long-time Pagan.

toby jo

(1,269 posts)

6. Johnny priest needs to learn some on shamanic cultures, they are all deeply spiritual.

Reply to icymist (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:08 PM

Jul 2013

As for materialism and consumerism being evil, what would torturing people to death who don't see the world the way you do be? I'm gonna vote worse than buying stuff.

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