Ancient Wisdom and Pagan Spirituality

orangecrush

(21,780 posts) Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:15 AM Nov 2019

So I may have seen a famous ghost...

I went to NYC by train from Erie Pa. on a lark September 6th, 2017.

I arrived quite late, stayed at the Pennsylvania, and walked 2 blocks to the Empire State Bldg. just before midnight.

It was a full moon, and there were quite a few people on the observation deck, with red uniformed workers around.

I turned a corner, and there was only one person in the section - a very pretty, sad looking young woman looking out over the city, who smiled at me and said "hello". Something about this struck me as strange, I said "Hi" back, and kept walking.

I never thought much about it till today, when I found the story of "the most beautiful suicide".

"McHale took her life on the 16th anniversary of when the Empire State first opened.

Most agree this suicide resulted in a haunting. The ghost of a pretty young woman is seen on the Empire’s observation deck.

Witnesses state that this ghost talked to them, expressing sadness, and then they saw her remove her coat and leap to her death through the barrier fence--as if it wasn’t even there.

This ghost is described as wearing old-fashioned 1940s style clothing. "

https://seeksghosts.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-empire-state-building-ghost.html?m=1

View from observation deck taken by me...

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So I may have seen a famous ghost... (Original Post) orangecrush Nov 2019 OP

I've seen that picture- with the clothes & the pretty young dead woman, it seems Hitchcockian to me, NBachers Nov 2019 #1

I find it almost inexplicable that her body was so perfectly intact and placed. hlthe2b Nov 2019 #2

I think it's normal, in a fall from an extreme height, for the body to appear externally intact. Mister Ed Nov 2019 #3

If staged orangecrush Nov 2019 #5

I'm not saying she didn't hit the car.. just that she may well have been "cleaned up" before photo hlthe2b Nov 2019 #6

I guess that's possible orangecrush Nov 2019 #7

Then there is this... orangecrush Nov 2019 #8

What's strange orangecrush Nov 2019 #4

NBachers

(18,129 posts)

1. I've seen that picture- with the clothes & the pretty young dead woman, it seems Hitchcockian to me,

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:59 AM

Nov 2019

for some reason. The contrast between the smashed car and the serene sleeping face are unnerving.

Was the woman you saw dressed in '40's clothes?

hlthe2b

(106,328 posts)

2. I find it almost inexplicable that her body was so perfectly intact and placed.

Reply to NBachers (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 06:17 AM

Nov 2019

I know it is a grainy black and white photo, but having had the sad experience of seeing the aftermath of trauma it (the photo) just seems staged. I know Life Magazine has denied that, but....?

Mister Ed

(6,352 posts)

3. I think it's normal, in a fall from an extreme height, for the body to appear externally intact.

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 06:35 AM

Nov 2019

I remember that information from my skydiving days: that when a skydiver has the misfortune to "bounce" (as they put it), there will be very little external injury, but massive internal injury.

orangecrush

(21,780 posts)

5. If staged

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 09:31 AM

Nov 2019

That wouldn't explain the smashed roof of a 47 Caddy, which were built like tanks in those days, not the thin sheet metal we have now.

hlthe2b

(106,328 posts)

6. I'm not saying she didn't hit the car.. just that she may well have been "cleaned up" before photo

Reply to orangecrush (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 09:37 AM

Nov 2019

orangecrush

(21,780 posts)

7. I guess that's possible

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 09:46 AM

Nov 2019

But hopefully the photographer wasn't that ghoulish.
It sure is a spooky picture, though.
She seemed quite friendly, and a bit lonely.

orangecrush

(21,780 posts)

8. Then there is this...

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 10:44 AM

Nov 2019

"According to witnesses, her body fell apart when they moved her. She was basically liquefied on impact. Yet that photo makes her look so peaceful. Warhol had a copy of this photo in his office, and later used it in a piece."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/4gv4tj/evelyn_mchale_the_most_beautiful_suicide/

orangecrush

(21,780 posts)

4. What's strange

Reply to NBachers (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 17, 2019, 09:29 AM

Nov 2019

Is that I seemed to make no observation of the type of clothes she was wearing, except that she was definitely not wearing a coat or jacket, which was odd.

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