Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:03 PM Jan 2013

The big "to do" about guns

is more than it appears.

As we approach the new enlightened age, the first thing we must stop (according to many and A Course in Miracles)
is all forms of attack.

Self attack turns into other attack.

Guns are just an extension... In this new age of Neptune and Chiron in Pisces;
it's a great place to start, and thank GODS, we have the right president; that's no accident.

Separation - other - attack - guns

IMHO

17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The big "to do" about guns (Original Post) Ricochet21 Jan 2013 OP
So how do we get there/out? elleng Jan 2013 #1
My thought is Ricochet21 Jan 2013 #3
If it were only so. elleng Jan 2013 #5
not necessarily NJCher Jan 2013 #8
She's got all the time she needs; elleng Jan 2013 #10
omg, I'm so sorry... OneGrassRoot Jan 2013 #11
... Tsiyu Jan 2013 #12
It is so Ricochet21 Jan 2013 #14
Very interesting. elleng Jan 2013 #16
Makes perfect sense get the red out Jan 2013 #2
The REASON Ricochet21 Jan 2013 #4
My UU congregation is tackling gun violence as of today LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #13
Makes perfect sense. kimmerspixelated Jan 2013 #6
Precisely Ricochet21 Jan 2013 #7
This reminds me of "Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me" LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #15
Thank you Ricochet21 Jan 2013 #17
interesting--I'll give it a shot NJCher Jan 2013 #9

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
3. My thought is
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:45 PM
Jan 2013

I start by stopping my attacking of myself. Then, that will automatically free me from attacking others.
I see no other solution. That's the basis in ACIM.

When we are not attacking, it draws a peaceful reaction from "others".

elleng

(136,389 posts)
5. If it were only so.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:50 PM
Jan 2013

Didn't work w daughter last week, at funeral of her grandmother-in-law. Pretty bad. (Not physically violent.) Otherwise I do my best.

NJCher

(37,997 posts)
8. not necessarily
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:51 AM
Jan 2013

Communication is a process. Maybe you didn't get the immediate response you hoped for or what you thought might be reasonable.

Give the other person time to think it over.


Cher

elleng

(136,389 posts)
10. She's got all the time she needs;
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jan 2013

said to me 'You're dead to me, won't see me until your funeral.'

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
14. It is so
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jan 2013

No matter how you act it won't change her free will. What can change is how you see her. I think she is simply calling out for love in her own way.

elleng

(136,389 posts)
16. Very interesting.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:19 PM
Jan 2013

She's had an abundance of love over the years. Wonder why/whether she's unsure of that. Somehow related simply to having a sibling (6/27/88, DC, 8:15 am.) ?

get the red out

(13,598 posts)
2. Makes perfect sense
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:30 PM
Jan 2013

And I've never seen people so serious about doing something about guns in my 48 years. It even created a bit of separation between Church and Hate last weekend here in Lexington, KY; the "Kenny Woods Gun and Knife Show" was taking place downtown at the Civic Center and some local Churches organized a prayer remembrance for the people killed at Sandy Hook, and other victims of gun violence, at the park across the street. The news covered it like crazy. I found that pretty awesome, some religious groups actually stepping up like that. Promising.

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
4. The REASON
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:49 PM
Jan 2013

it's come to a head, is the continuing Uranus (guns) square to Pluto. We need to redefine the usage of
force on all levels. And the awful chart of the birth of the NRA is very irrational. On the DAY of the CT shootings,
their chart got hit in its weakest spot by Pluto right on their Mars/Saturn.

Mars/Saturn is cruel energy, ie. therefore, the have to face their own cruelty.

or crumble

I think the answer has to come from within the NRA

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
13. My UU congregation is tackling gun violence as of today
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jan 2013

The minister, Rev. Lynn Strauss said it was time again, in light of the Newtown mass murders, for UUs to exercise the kind of moral authority we practiced over the years and decades with issues like abolition, women's suffrage, ending racism, voter rights, and equal marriage. Our first nonviolence working group meeting is Jan. 26. I am excited about this. It looks like a lot of people in the congregation are more than ready to deal with it.

kimmerspixelated

(8,423 posts)
6. Makes perfect sense.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:51 PM
Jan 2013

We are Godlings, and we keep forgetting it which leads to separation.

The only thing that is real is love anyway.

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
7. Precisely
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jan 2013

it took me forever
I just turned 61
I kept reading it
and reading it
and I finally GOT IT
I think

When I solve peace in me, it solves it for all
I was thinking in a linear fashion before, which is why I couldn't figure it out
If I solved my peace, how did it affect "you"?

Until I finally listened closer; there is only one of us (at the same time that there are many)
There's an Aquarian answer for you.
But it's true.

That's what I mean.
The rest is illusory


Your thoughts?

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
15. This reminds me of "Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me"
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:09 PM
Jan 2013

It's a song written by Jill Jackson and Sy Miller in 1955

http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/l/lettherebepeaceonearth.shtml

PS HAPPY BIRTHDAY RICK!

NJCher

(37,997 posts)
9. interesting--I'll give it a shot
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:14 AM
Jan 2013

Thanks for sharing your epiphany with us.

I don't think I attack myself often, but on occasion I do. Usually for not getting enough work done.

Remember that book from sometime around the 70s? How to Be Your Own Best Friend? I read it. One of the practices I gleaned is that when you attack yourself, ask yourself if you would treat your best friend that way. The answer is almost always no.

The interesting thing about this practice is that it gets you to thinking of yourself as a friend. In that context, it is much easier to just let oneself "be."

A friend sent me this poem from Hugh Prather the other day. It seems appropriate here:

What should I do?

Nothing
Nothing is the thing to do
(Nothing is the only doing)

I am worthwhile just existing
("Just"? - OK, I am worthwhile existing)

What if the stars were to start doing something?
("What are you doing hummingbird?"
"I'm just being a hummingbird"
"Oh, is that all?&quot

As soon as I start doing
I stop being

"I don't understand how you do so little."

(Now that's a compliment)

Hugh Prather (~1972)


Cher

Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»Astrology, Spirituality & Alternative Healing»The big "to do"...