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GardeningGal

(2,211 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:21 PM Jan 2012

Something happened today that makes me very unhappy with DU3.

I'm going to need to think about it a bit. I just realized that SpiralHawk was banned by Skinner for something I thought was pretty trivial. I may end up having to activate my Facebook account after all.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/124023464

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Something happened today that makes me very unhappy with DU3. (Original Post) GardeningGal Jan 2012 OP
oh, that is ridiculous Celebration Jan 2012 #1
Is the ban temporary or final? backtoblue Jan 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #5
Whoa! Howler Jan 2012 #3
I am a little confused also...What happened to free speech? I kind onecent Jan 2012 #4
Please remember -- you don't have free speech where private property is involved Remember Me Jan 2012 #16
I am finding the DU3 to be an unpleasant unfamiliar place. rosesaylavee Jan 2012 #6
word OneGrassRoot Jan 2012 #7
That describes me too--DU once was a "must," now it's something else entirely. The Mist Jan 2012 #24
ding! winner! NuttyFluffers Jan 2012 #20
Those who can See, take a Look. nt Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #8
How did SpiralHawk get banned? liberalmuse Jan 2012 #9
I once asked about something that is apparently not to be mentioned here. Still Blue in PDX Jan 2012 #10
How does one know what is banned- is there a list somewhere? Tumbulu Jan 2012 #11
Subjects that are not permitted are listed in the terms of service at the bottom of the forum: icymist Jan 2012 #13
I never even saw all that- thanks for pointing it out Tumbulu Jan 2012 #17
Are we "allowed" to talk about chemtrails HERE? right on maude... Jan 2012 #22
I would say don't even discuss it here. kentauros Jan 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #28
Lol, me too Celebration Jan 2012 #12
Years ago, I held a few discussions that got kimmerspixelated Jan 2012 #14
a word of warning -- don't even try to talk about chemtrails in the dungeon Remember Me Jan 2012 #15
Me, too. Habibi Jan 2012 #18
Many things can't be discussed here. BlueIris Jan 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Kookaburra Jan 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author LaurenG Jan 2012 #23
any word on the finality of the decision? FirstLight Jan 2012 #26
I think it's final. GardeningGal Jan 2012 #27
Yes, it was trivial especially compared with malicious posts by others. Metta Jan 2012 #29

Celebration

(15,812 posts)
1. oh, that is ridiculous
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jan 2012

Yikes that is way over the top to be banned for that!

And everybody in that thread agrees. Maybe he had a bad day! Ugh............

backtoblue

(11,676 posts)
2. Is the ban temporary or final?
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jan 2012

I would've thought that a suspension would've been harsh, let alone getting banned. Yikes!

Response to backtoblue (Reply #2)

onecent

(6,096 posts)
4. I am a little confused also...What happened to free speech? I kind
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 04:51 PM
Jan 2012

of felt like DU was a "safe" haven for people to discuss or cuss about things they felt...

Wise to have limits....but I don't believe I want to ever be on a jury.... I am not here to judge others for their
thoughts.

 

Remember Me

(1,532 posts)
16. Please remember -- you don't have free speech where private property is involved
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:52 PM
Jan 2012

It's a common misconception. The First Amendment only prevents GOVERNMENT from censoring your speech. Whenever you find yourself on private property -- privately owned property, that is, such as DU -- you can be censored all day long every day.

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
6. I am finding the DU3 to be an unpleasant unfamiliar place.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:01 PM
Jan 2012

Not sure I will be posting much if at all here now.

OneGrassRoot

(23,406 posts)
7. word
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:02 PM
Jan 2012

I check in every few days; whereas I used to check in several times a day.

I agree with you. It is both unpleasant and unfamiliar. At least in DU2-GD the unpleasantness was familiar.



Mist

(5,780 posts)
24. That describes me too--DU once was a "must," now it's something else entirely. The
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:52 AM
Jan 2012

list of "forbidden" topics is a riot, except not really funny. My friends and I often spend an evening on the "forbidden" subjects, so I'm not sure
how off the wall they really are.

NuttyFluffers

(6,811 posts)
20. ding! winner!
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:21 PM
Jan 2012

i'm close to being done myself. starting to look like it outlived its usefulness. the primaries poisoning will be a deciding factor.

Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)
10. I once asked about something that is apparently not to be mentioned here.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jan 2012

Someone at work was talking about something unmentionable one day and piqued my curiosity. I had no idea it was ban-worthy.

Holy cow -- guess I'm lucky to still be here.

Tumbulu

(6,437 posts)
11. How does one know what is banned- is there a list somewhere?
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jan 2012

that is so weird, but would she have been banned in the oldDU as well?

Was these topics banned there too?

icymist

(15,888 posts)
13. Subjects that are not permitted are listed in the terms of service at the bottom of the forum:
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:30 PM
Jan 2012

<snip>
Don't go overboard with the crazy talk.

Democratic Underground is not intended to be a platform for kooks and crackpots peddling paranoid fantasies with little or no basis in fact. To accomodate our more imaginative members we tolerate some limited discussion of so-called "conspiracy theories" under the following circumstances: First, those discussions are not permitted in our heavily-trafficked Main forums; and second, those discussions cannot stray too far into Crazyland (eg: chemtrails, black helicopters, 9/11 death rays or holograms, the "New World Order," the Bilderbergers, the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, alien abduction, Bigfoot, and the like). In addition, please be aware that many conspiracy theories have roots in racism and anti-semitism, and Democratic Underground has zero tolerance for bigoted hate speech. In short, you take your chances.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

Personally, I find it a shame about what happened to SpiralHawk.

Tumbulu

(6,437 posts)
17. I never even saw all that- thanks for pointing it out
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:57 PM
Jan 2012

I wonder why that topic freaks them out so much? How strange.

 
22. Are we "allowed" to talk about chemtrails HERE?
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 03:12 PM
Jan 2012

I mean, "they" are stepping up the spraying big time. It was pointed out to me and I now see it practically every time I gaze up at the sky.

What's so dangerous about even mentioning it? Doesn't that give one pause?

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
25. I would say don't even discuss it here.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:02 PM
Jan 2012

It, along with all the others they label as "CrazyLand", seems to really bother the admins and such. Best not to antagonize if you can help it. Their one sentence in the TOS, "In short, you take your chances", doesn't really help, either. It would be better to have a complete list of forbidden topics and state emphatically that they are not to be discussed. "Taking your chances" won't work when those odds are stacked against you.

At the same time, the Matthew Messages threads seem to be okay, but I would guess no one but us ever looks at them. It's full of references to the Illuminati. I have to ignore that part of it because I don't really believe in such organizations. Then again, I love the site RexResearch as well as sometimes browsing Fortean Times. Both include topics that would likely get me banned were I to discuss them openly. Better is to find forums elsewhere that don't have such restrictions.

Response to icymist (Reply #13)

Celebration

(15,812 posts)
12. Lol, me too
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jan 2012

I don't have the time or interest to check and comment on Chem trail threads but that response was not at all out of bounds.

 

Remember Me

(1,532 posts)
15. a word of warning -- don't even try to talk about chemtrails in the dungeon
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:49 PM
Jan 2012

It seems to be an absolutely verboten subject.

I wandered in there one day and in whatever discussion happened to mention them or comment on a mention and I was schooled very promptly NOT to discuss chemtrails even there. I don't think I've been back since.

I'm just sick about SpiralHawk, though.

Habibi

(3,600 posts)
18. Me, too.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:56 AM
Jan 2012

I find that ASAH is the first/last place I visit these days. I feel like I understand the rules here more than any other forum/group.

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
19. Many things can't be discussed here.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:00 AM
Jan 2012

This site, while it does have its occasional insightful post from an unusual or rarely heard perspective, is pretty mainstream. Then again, so is most of the Internets.

Response to GardeningGal (Original post)

Response to GardeningGal (Original post)

FirstLight

(13,963 posts)
26. any word on the finality of the decision?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:12 PM
Jan 2012

...did they allow him/her back? It was seriously a really out there and harsh decision, you'd think they'd reconsider?

GardeningGal

(2,211 posts)
27. I think it's final.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jan 2012

Take a look at this thread - it's painful though.

I'm really not liking the energy of DU3. It's seems pretty dark to me now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/124024351#post113

edited because I forgot to post the link. duh!

Metta

(5,822 posts)
29. Yes, it was trivial especially compared with malicious posts by others.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jan 2012

Looks as if DU3 is becoming a swamp compared with the sensitivity and comradary of DU2.

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