I think a lot of posters and readers of this forum might feel like they don't have enough knowledge to make that call. I understand that.

I'll take another look at it but my judgment is going to be intuitive, which is how I read charts. Even though I took six astrology classes down in Princeton at the Astrological Society of Princeton ( from Ken Negus and his wife Joan, who passed away first), including synastry, I would much rather do an intuitive look.

Linda Schurman was my astrologer when she lived here, but one time I had to see another astrologer when she was away. That astrologer told me much of the information she gave me was intuitive because there wasn't a way she could get that info from a chart.

Linda does mundane astrology and is very much a leftist Democrat. I get a kick out of her appearances on C2C, that r-w bastion of pro-gun idiocy.

After I saw that such readings could be done, I started reading charts intuitively. I can look at a chart or handwriting and get a picture of what's going on with a person.

Anyway, I will look at this soon and post back.

I do not care what technique is the basis you use to form your opinion in response to my question, just which chart has 'better' aspects for one of the people's experience on election day.

My own decision was decided by a feature of the particular charts I use.

I'll be looking at them when I get a little time.

and have only recently returned.

I have read your responses a number of times.

I am disturbed by the way that that you have chosen to communicate.

Why you feel entitled to be so rude mystifies me.

This is the Democratic Underground. We have a lot of people who come to this forum with interest in many things that are not necessarily in their mainstream life. Biting someone's head off for asking a question is not civil at all. And it goes against the rules of the forum.

Stating that you do not care how someone reaches their conclusions- as you do above is another off putting way to communicate.

An apology would be a good place to start.

your post.

As a Host of this Group I've been holding back on confronting this problem and that's wrong. of me

I'm sorry!

I needed time to look at it undistracted, then I forgot.

But now that I have been reminded and looked at it, I get the same notion that I got the first time I saw them. I'm also an intuitive reader.

What I see, in general, is that -45 has a hard opposition going on with Jupiter and Venus at odds, not a good thing, indicates women are not feeling much in the way of empathy or compassion for the male population, his ilk in particular, and he's right there in the thick of it. Gemini is a balancing act of extremes and he thinks he has the male faction on his side but Jupiter there looks to be in place to tip the scales for or against him. Venus is standing up to both at the same time, ready for war in a strong stance within Sagittarius. By the time the election comes around, the lines will be clear enough. He probably will be soundly defeated, women will be voting in record numbers, you don't take our fundamental rights away, period.

As for Biden I see a much more favorable situation, His Sun his where Venus is, on the same page so to speak. He can see beyond the veneer with Jupiter over in Cancer and the other two bodies in water signs and a loose 120 degree configuration, everybody is in some form of agreement, looks really good for Biden.

Sun & Venus in that placement = indication Biden/Harris; Biden and women in general in agreement, standing together.

The Jupiter aspect in Cancer = In the sign of home and fluidity, men can see what there is to lose (domestic stability) if the home front is drastically altered by -45's return to power and they, being in a water sign, can see we all swim in the same pond and if someone throws a poison bomb into it, everybody's screwed. With it so close to the Sun might be that they are there to block him ...Gemini is weird and hard to decipher with regard to some things in life.

I think it will be a massive landslide for the presidential and I hope also down ballot.

Hope that makes sense somewhere.

fingers crossed that it will be a true blue wave from the President down to the Town Manager.

Thanks to those that responded in these aspect threads. No explanations about your postings are necessary.

What I finally used to decide whose chart had the strongest possible aspects on election day (using Jamaica, NY; Bedminster, NJ; or Mar-A-Lago, FL, for tRump) was the chart with the strongest angular aspects (pride of place). That is president Biden's progressed chart (my 8:22 birth time chart) located to the White House with his natal Sun and Venus on it's MC and his natal Jupiter trine it.

Aspects to my own charts are not as strong as I would like them to be. My choice could be wrong or the aspects might be health related.

I got some insights into some energies associated with the Eclipses. I'm researching and will post soon!

to your analysis!

The Tarot reads are strong for Biden. The only thing that bothers me is if tfg can't make it to the ballot and Haley gets on.

i keep getting this vision of a blue wave of women washing over almost every state. All the tricks (Gemini) that the pukes think they can do with the courts or the propaganda etc will come to naught.
In the secrecy of the booth, look for even SOME red state women to vote in their own defense and lie to their men.

Biden's birthchart properly with the election date is that he's dropping out?

Don't be mad at me for asking...