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meat the beetles.

(17 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:19 PM Jan 2012

The Signs of the Presidents

Does anyone know offhand which Sun sign has most often become President? I think I began a count a while back but don't recall the results.

Interesting with the Republican candidates this time around: Santorum is a Taurus, Romney and Perry are both Pisceans, Ron Paul is a Leo but on the cusp of Virgo, Newt is a Gemini (great bullshit artist, that one!) and Huntsman is an Aries.

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BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
4. That list claims 'Capricorn - 2.' This site claims we've had six lunar Caps in office.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 05:20 PM
Jan 2012

Washington, Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Buchanan, Lincoln, and Arthur.

http://www.neptunecafe.com/USPresidents.html

Kookaburra

(2,649 posts)
5. Didn't really read either of them through, but
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jan 2012

After looking at both lists -- I think they both have some incorrect information.

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
7. That's why I put 'claims.'
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:00 AM
Jan 2012

Presidential astrology used to be a hobby of mine, and many astrology flame wars have been fought over which astro features are "correct" for which leader.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
6. Interesting that on that list are three major POTUS(es).
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 07:18 PM
Jan 2012

Washington who fought to form the country.
Monroe who fought off an invasion to keep the country.
Lincoln who held the country together when it could've been broken apart.

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
8. Moon in Capricorn can withstand just about anything.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:09 AM
Jan 2012

Posts this Moon in Capricorn.

Capricorn also rules the 10th house, which is thought by some to rule the presidency.

 

aquarius venus

(13 posts)
9. I always look at the Moon as the dark side of each sign
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jan 2012

So for instance, I have Moon in Virgo. I am pretty critical and sarcastic. I know Sun in Virgos who are a lot more humane in these areas. Since the Moon is in the shadow of the Sun, I believe that this means it will be expressing more of the negative qualities in the sign it's in.

Hillary has Sun in Scorpio and Moon in Aries--double Mars. I would be afraid of her being President or even VP. Moon in Aries is very volatile and impulsive--my mom has it and I know from experience what they are like. Hillary also showed her true colors in the last election against Obama. She just tried every trick in the book, especially with racial issues. Turned me off big time, which is a shame because I think she's very charismatic.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
10. I don't get it that the moon sign is dark.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:43 PM
Jan 2012

Frankly, I get the moon sign as compliment to the other signs. My sisters' sign is Libra. My moon is in Libra. My sister and I get along well, even though we have disagreements. My sisters' sun sign is also libra. We still get along well. There is no dark here. Our signs know each other and know each other well. The moon is not in the shadow of the sun, but is reflective of the sun. Look into the myths of Isis.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
11. The Moon
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jan 2012

I don't think of the Moon as 'dark' either. I always heard/read that Ascendant is Personality and Moon is Emotional expression.

My Moon is also Libra. I am very passionate about equality. Which doesn't work out too well in this wrinkle of Time.

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
13. The Moon has nothing to do with "darkness"
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jan 2012

imho

Tackling astrology is hard enough

even thinking about trying to understand the Moon is a thousand times harder.

 
15. I am talking about how the signs express themselves via the Moon!
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jan 2012

Every planet will express a sign in a different way, no? So the Moon represents the Mother; if you know someone's sign you can get a hint of the personality of the mother, particuarly her "negative" side. I also believe that the Moon represents our karmic baggage in some way.

Look at the Tarot and how the Moon is depicted versus the Sun: deception, nebulousness, emotionality, etc.

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
18. The Moon often times does not represent the mother
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jan 2012

Many times it represents the Father if he, in fact was the nurturer. No doubt, many times, it does reflect the mother. I see that when it reflects the mother it often reflects the (-) side as well as the (+) side. I find it very hard to develop standard formulas for the moon as it is so unpredictable. So many times, it seems to represent the karmic ties one has also.

Yes, I understand the usage/interpretation in the Tarot. All I am saying is that it is always so much more that what I thought it was just after I thought I started to have a grip on it. I know one thing for sure: The Moon is nuts. It's crazy. It has no use for rationality.

Interesting findings!

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
16. I've always thought Hillary had a Moon in Pisces.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jan 2012

But her time of birth varies depending on which source you consult.

Astro.com's version of the Astrodatabank discussion on her chart lists it as 8:02 a.m., which is the time of birth I use for her for various reasons (actually I just use 8 a.m.):

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton,_Hillary_Rodham

Astrotheme claims 8 p.m. (who knows why):

http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/HM52phN7h2V5.htm

Both birth times place her Moon in Pisces. If she were born very much later than 8 p.m., it would be in Aries. I think she is an obvious lunar Pisces (extremely sensitive, even paranoid, hyper reactive to stress and pressure, problem with honesty and very skilled at deception...like most politicians.) But unless she ever releases a birth certificate, (she hasn't, right?) we'll never know for sure.

noel711

(2,185 posts)
12. this link is incorrect
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 04:12 PM
Jan 2012

lincoln was an Aquarius... Feb. 12th.

Washington a Pisces... Feb.22.

John Quincy Adams Cancer.. July 11th (my birthdate)

I don't know the others...

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
14. The link lists Lincoln as a Solar Aquarius, Washington as a Solar Pisces and JQ Adams as a Cancer.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 06:54 PM
Jan 2012

So I don't think it is incorrect. At least not about the Sun signs.

Lincoln: February 12, 1809 (Sun at 23 Aquarius)

Washington: February 22, 1732 (Sun at 3 Pisces)

JQ Adams: July 11, 1767 (Sun at 18 Cancer)

Same as that link says.

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