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Is it possible for an ongoing US astro chart to be done here? It would really be interesting to see (Original Post) mother earth May 2012 OP
Read Ricochet21 May 2012 #1
I'll have to look him up. I was thinking more of future transits and trends. mother earth May 2012 #2
Tarnas details each one of those Ricochet21 May 2012 #6
Now that sounds good on the surface if not very intense..... Howler May 2012 #7
You know the answer. I don't know one woman who is willing to go backward, how about you? mother earth May 2012 #13
No! Howler May 2012 #14
The divine feminine is going to prevail. mother earth May 2012 #15
A lot of what you have in your newsletter is probably appropriate. mother earth May 2012 #3
There's a whole wealth of youtube vids he's done, I'll have to view these, thanks, Rick. mother earth May 2012 #4
Here's a Jessica Murray CMN preview from YT. mother earth May 2012 #5
US natal charts felix_numinous May 2012 #8
No one knows Ricochet21 May 2012 #9
So do you feel that both charts felix_numinous May 2012 #10
Possibly Ricochet21 May 2012 #11
As always I'll be looking forward to each interpretation you provide on this new era. mother earth May 2012 #12
I've always used the Sag Rising chart. BlueIris May 2012 #16

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
1. Read
Sun May 27, 2012, 06:26 PM
May 2012

Richard Tarnas' "Cosmos and Psyche". He already did it, and I mean did it to the nth degree... every event and detail
absolute perfection. "Probably" the greatest astrology book ever written.

Good luck

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
2. I'll have to look him up. I was thinking more of future transits and trends.
Sun May 27, 2012, 07:37 PM
May 2012

Here’s part of a 2012 US forecast from 2009:
“Americans Must Think Globally or Else
Embedded within this grand square is a strong and important opposition. This opposition also involves "soft" planetary influences, suggesting a national psychological crisis.

The opposition straddles the 3rd house/9th house axis. Americans will have to balance local concerns against the needs of participation in the global community, something many Americans are not used to doing, yet.

The Moon's nodes are involved. They strengthen the opposition and raise the stakes. The north node favors greater foreign involvements. The south node will penalize communities that don't take a global perspective.
In Sum
The composite chart for the 2012 and the US defines an intense superheated political state. Things that seemed settled by law, a long time ago, will be on the table. The forces of reform will be empowered to go head to head with the established order.

The force pouring into the chart makes radical change inevitable. The planetary aspects point to a major national identity crisis. The prevalence of hard aspects say that this identity crisis will be a difficult one and require considerable effort by the US, from both its government and its people. A lot of innovations will have to be built painstakingly, from the ground up.”
http://carlboudreau.blogspot.com/2009/06/2012-and-usa.html

Howler

(4,225 posts)
7. Now that sounds good on the surface if not very intense.....
Mon May 28, 2012, 09:58 AM
May 2012

But what happens if the "change" is regressive? SAy like womans rights and abortion? I mean it does seem to be going backward.

Howler

(4,225 posts)
14. No!
Wed May 30, 2012, 10:06 AM
May 2012

Absolutely not Mother Earth......But the male principles are really fighting the Female principles that are coming into awareness. Historically speaking it almost always gets worse before it gets better.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
15. The divine feminine is going to prevail.
Wed May 30, 2012, 06:41 PM
May 2012

Howler, check out Dr. Christine Page. She's a doctor, an intuitive, writer, author of The Galactic Alignment, Return of the Great Mother. I think you will like her.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
3. A lot of what you have in your newsletter is probably appropriate.
Sun May 27, 2012, 07:40 PM
May 2012

Jessica Murray is another good astrologer who wrote "Soul Sick Nation".

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
4. There's a whole wealth of youtube vids he's done, I'll have to view these, thanks, Rick.
Sun May 27, 2012, 07:49 PM
May 2012

Our Moment in History: World Transits 2008-2020, Richard Tarnas, (part 3 of 3) 2011-11-13 .mov

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
5. Here's a Jessica Murray CMN preview from YT.
Sun May 27, 2012, 07:53 PM
May 2012

Preview of interview with Jessica Murray on the Astrology of 2012

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
8. US natal charts
Mon May 28, 2012, 02:47 PM
May 2012

From Astrology Weekly:

Horoscope of USA · USA natal chart

There is an ongoing controversy regarding the natal chart of the USA. However, most astrologers use either the Sagittarius Rising chart (that seems to work better when it comes to rectification and is supported by historical evidence) either the Gemini Rising chart (which seems to provide a better description of the American character).

Sagittarius Rising chart (Sibly): July 4, 1776, 5:10 pm LMT, Philadelphia, PA

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Gemini Rising chart: July 4, 1776, 02:13:32 am LMT, Philadelphia, PA

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Posting this for reference, I think this is a good enough source I wonder what Rick thinks about which rising sign the US has? I don't know enough about this.

Here is the link to the current chart on Astrology Weekly site:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php


Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
9. No one knows
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:40 AM
May 2012

These are the "main" two. The first has been validated by 9/11.
The second shows how childish in naive Americans are, throw-away, give it to me now society, which makes some sense and also
looks like a chart early astrology would have picked on purpose when there was "no" Uranus, Neptune or Pluto. A toss up.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
10. So do you feel that both charts
Tue May 29, 2012, 02:17 PM
May 2012

can be used, like the link said, depending on the question? This is why I am not an astrologer!!



Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
11. Possibly
Tue May 29, 2012, 04:59 PM
May 2012

astrologers use 7 different USA charts
no one knows

I DO know two things: 1, The S is hitting the fan in 2015 when Pluto opposes our Sun
and 2. The Pluto return will happen in about 9 years

Birth time matters not for those. I'll be writing extensively about both because it is THE END of what we have known
as the USA and HOPEFULLY the beginning of something far greater, BUT THIS TIME, real. Let's hope.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
12. As always I'll be looking forward to each interpretation you provide on this new era.
Wed May 30, 2012, 08:00 AM
May 2012

Everyone who can provide these interpretations seem to be saying the same things, in different ways, but pretty much the same.
And the layers of this onion, apply to all individually and collectively? (Sorry, lol, have a hard time restraining the armchair philosopher.)



BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
16. I've always used the Sag Rising chart.
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:28 AM
May 2012

I think it's the most accurate reflection of the US and its future.

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