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What *happened* in Wisconsin today? (Original Post) Matariki Jun 2012 OP
You can see all the counties here. elleng Jun 2012 #1
attempted recall was not the best route to proceed magical thyme Jun 2012 #2
I agree felix_numinous Jun 2012 #3
It's difficult to believe that the massive turnout yesterday was *for* Scott Walker Matariki Jun 2012 #5
We got to find out what we're up against The Blue Flower Jun 2012 #4
It was unbelievable... findrskeep Jun 2012 #6
I knew intuitively what would happen. noel711 Jun 2012 #7
Here in Wisconsin our machines were switched out and replaced with the Sequoia opti scan that midnight Jun 2012 #8
And this is exactly why I feel the election was rigged Saokymo Jun 2012 #9

elleng

(135,777 posts)
1. You can see all the counties here.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:02 AM
Jun 2012
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/wisconsin-recall-results

I know little about the State, but its clear there's more there than Madison and Milwaukee. Dems DID regain a majority in the State Senate, though, which means quite a lot.

Basically, I suspect its due to all the out of State $$$ the repugs had to spend on propaganda, compared with little for the Democrat Barrett, which was enabled by Citizens United and a 198? Wisconsin decision concerning what an incumbent may spend on a recall election.

Clearly my response isnot related to astrology!
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
2. attempted recall was not the best route to proceed
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:59 AM
Jun 2012

They rarely succeed.

If the polls were rigged, then we are done as a democracy because the takeover is complete.

But there may have been a backlash by people not directly impacted by Walker's policies, who would have preferred to wait out the election cycle.

I do think, given the outside and outsized spending by the opposition, that it was a tactical error.

Astrologically, beats me.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
3. I agree
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jun 2012

with you completely Magical Thyme:
"If the polls were rigged, then we are done as a democracy because the takeover is complete."

SO strange that the election was on the day of the Venus transit. You know all day yesterday I had a funky feeling about this election-- and today I feel worse. My instincts are sensing some really underhanded business. I can write this here on ASAH only.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
5. It's difficult to believe that the massive turnout yesterday was *for* Scott Walker
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:46 PM
Jun 2012

and now today folks are saying turnout was low. my lying eyes...

findrskeep

(713 posts)
6. It was unbelievable...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:05 PM
Jun 2012

I wish more people would wake up sooner, rather than later. On the other hand, sometimes things like this are what trigger people to awaken. My husband and I watched it and were both speechless, well more or less..lol. I too felt like something was amiss, and maybe something will come out about it later. And with Barrett being out spent 8 to 1, with most money coming from out of state Republicans with an obvious agenda, will show democrats that the election in November can also be bought and more people will chip in.
What a mess.

noel711

(2,185 posts)
7. I knew intuitively what would happen.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:56 PM
Jun 2012

My heart was heavy all day.
I doubt there was any actual fraud.
The fraud that is perpetuated is the constant propaganda that
is called 'media' and 'political ads.'
the fraud that convinces people to believe what they are told,
and emotionally believe..
And convinced not to think for themselves..

The fraud is the 'ginned' up political extremism,
the 'us vs them,' and the 'all or nothing' thinking.

It is tragic, and I don't see a light at the end of this story.
Walker and all his compadres are not really leaders,
but are following a playbook to manipulate the electorate
and pervert the democracy to benefit a select few.
This is not only unethical.. it is moral abuse.

But as I said in another thread: The wheels of justice grind slowly....

midnight

(26,624 posts)
8. Here in Wisconsin our machines were switched out and replaced with the Sequoia opti scan that
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 12:12 AM
Jun 2012

were shown in Florida to give the loser the winning votes....

"In Wisconsin, the state’s leading vendors of voting machines, election supplies, and distributors of Dominion Voting Systems is Command Central. Dominion is a veritable cartel of Republican backed voting technology and owns Diebold/Premier Election voting Systems, which it bought from Election Systems and Software (ES&S), and the British based Sequoia. Diebold/Premier, famous for the mess that was the 2004 Presidential election, and ES&S are owned and operated by a handful of Republican, super-rich, Christian Reconstructionists and control 80% of the vote counts in the United States."http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/07/recall-election-fraud-in-wisconsin-you-betcha/

Saokymo

(273 posts)
9. And this is exactly why I feel the election was rigged
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:31 AM
Jun 2012

American Democracy: Bought for you by Diebold!

They don't have to steal all the votes to pull it off, just flip (or in some cases, fabricate) enough to make it close enough to be plausible. The whole thing stinks.

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