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shrike

(3,817 posts)
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 07:50 PM Feb 2017

US cardinal Raymond Burke stokes papal tensions by meeting nationalist in Rome

A powerful American cardinal who is engaged in a bitter feud with Pope Francis has met Matteo Salvini, the rightwing Italian nationalist who is a staunch supporter of Donald Trump and has praised Benito Mussolini.

The reported meeting between Cardinal Raymond Burke and Salvini, the head of the Northern League party, is a sign that intense divisions between traditionalists and the pope are becoming increasingly political.

Pope Francis’s allies in the church, who back his message of inclusion and support for immigrants, are speaking out against the US president’s travel ban against refugees and immigrants from majority-Muslim countries. Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark, New Jersey, who was recently promoted by Francis, called Trump’s executive order “the opposite of what it means to be an American.” Tobin has also suggested that Trump is a conman.

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The meeting could be a way for Burke – the unofficial head of the most conservative and traditional elements within the Roman Catholic church – to send a message to other conservatives. The next Italian election could be called as early as this summer. While Salvini has the support of only about 13% of Italian voters, a meeting between Burke and the rightwing leader could be an attempt by Burke to urge conservatives to rally around the Northern League.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/05/us-cardinal-raymond-burke-stokes-papal-tensions-by-meeting-nationalist-in-rome

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angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
1. It's why I am no longer catholic....
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:02 PM
Feb 2017

I was raised and went to catholic school....when I was told my cat could not go to heaven I became an agnostic....then after learning much, I became an atheist.

shrike

(3,817 posts)
3. This is the Catholic and Orthodox group. You're welcome to post here as long as you don't get too
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:43 PM
Feb 2017

disruptive. Just a friendly reminder.

btw, opinion is split as to whether our pets go to heaven: I believe it was Augustine who said animals might have souls and so be present in the afterlife.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
5. I went to catholic school all my youth
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:50 PM
Feb 2017

I was raped when I was 11....and my mother told the catholics.....and I wAs subjected to some obscure girl who preferred death to rape

shrike

(3,817 posts)
6. I'm very sorry this happened to you. I hope you've gotten support and love.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:06 PM
Feb 2017

I'm just pointing out that there are rules in the Catholic group (above) just as there are rules for any of the DU groups. People violate those rules tend to get their posts hidden. But posts by non-Catholics are welcome so long as they follow the guidelines.

shrike

(3,817 posts)
4. How 'bout a brown shirt? (Just sayin')
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 08:44 PM
Feb 2017

Also, this is a sad reminder of what Francis is up again. Another reason progress is so slow-going.

Volaris

(10,599 posts)
7. If he doesn't learn to keep his mouth shut he's gonna get demoted again.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 09:14 PM
Feb 2017

What's next for him, washing dishes? If so, that's just fine with me.
I'm in St Louis, and most of us were just happy as hell to see him get promoted out of town. He's a prick of the First Order.

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