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patricia92243

(12,797 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:30 PM Feb 2022

I'm looking for a church to attend. I want one that worships God - not Trump.

I really don't know how to go about it. If you actually asked them if they worship God or Trump, they are naturally going to say God.

Any suggestions? I live in a small town, so I'm not sure I'll even have a choice.

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I'm looking for a church to attend. I want one that worships God - not Trump. (Original Post) patricia92243 Feb 2022 OP
Perhaps Go & Get A Sample Of Their Rhetoric? nt SoCalDavidS Feb 2022 #1
That's an idea. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #10
I'm not a religious person at all, but if I were, I would go to a Unitarian church for me. RKP5637 Feb 2022 #2
I'll look into that. Thanks for the tip. patricia92243 Feb 2022 #3
I joined UU ten years ago at age 60 CanonRay Feb 2022 #6
Ditto. They have long been progressive, tolerant, accepting, and non-political hlthe2b Feb 2022 #5
Not sure about not being political. wnylib Feb 2022 #13
Episcopalian TrogL Feb 2022 #4
Try to find an ELCA church. They are probably what you are seeking. kysrsoze Feb 2022 #7
Don't go as much as I used to since I now live an hour away from one but I do recommend the ELCA efhmc Feb 2024 #26
I am a Jewish atheist. nycbos Feb 2022 #8
The Presbyterian church has two large wnylib Feb 2022 #14
The United Methodist Church has been in the midst of a divorce summer_in_TX Feb 2022 #20
UU - I am a member. cilla4progress Feb 2022 #9
Unitarian here too.... essaynnc Feb 2022 #11
Most churches have websites, you could check those Clash City Rocker Feb 2022 #12
which god? there are millions to choose from nt msongs Feb 2022 #15
Where do you live? wryter2000 Feb 2022 #16
I'm pretty sure we have an Episcopal church. I'll give it a try. Thanks! patricia92243 Feb 2022 #18
There are RW Episcopal churches wryter2000 Feb 2022 #19
I also recommend the Episcopalians. shrike3 Mar 2022 #21
Start your own!!! Think of the tax advantages!!! ret5hd Feb 2022 #17
I did an online search of churches in 92243.. RicROC May 2022 #22
Thanks for the research! patricia92243 May 2022 #23
A bit late to the party but... carpetbagger Aug 2022 #24
Eight-minute drive per Google maps! Thanks for the tip. I will look into it. patricia92243 Aug 2022 #25
Take a look at this Beachnutt Mar 2024 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Mar 2024 #28

ShazzieB

(18,444 posts)
10. That's an idea.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:52 PM
Feb 2022

Many churches these days post past sermons on their websites. Those websites can tell you a lot in other ways, too, about the beliefs a church promotes and regards as central.

I would also look at the denomination. Some (Episcopal, ELCA, and United Church of Christ, for example) are known to be more progressive than others. This is another thing websites can be a big help with.

Nondenominational churches can vary widely, from extremely fundamentalist to ? So I would tread carefully with those.

All of the above is purely my personal opinion, so ymmv.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. I'm not a religious person at all, but if I were, I would go to a Unitarian church for me.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:34 PM
Feb 2022

I'm no expert, but they always seemed rather reasonable ... at least when I looked years ago. That said, maybe things have changed.

CanonRay

(14,783 posts)
6. I joined UU ten years ago at age 60
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:39 PM
Feb 2022

We recognize that everyone is on a different spiritual path. There is no creed, just 7 principles we follow.

wnylib

(24,147 posts)
13. Not sure about not being political.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 06:29 PM
Feb 2022

The UU church in my community is so political that it more like a political social club than a religious institution.

kysrsoze

(6,122 posts)
7. Try to find an ELCA church. They are probably what you are seeking.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:41 PM
Feb 2022

I was a member for a long time, and they are all about helping others, teachings of Christ over idol worship, building inter-denominational and inter-religion relationships, and equality for all (every one, no matter what background, skin color and sexual orientation is welcome).

Don't be scared off by "Evangelical" in the name. They have absolutely nothing to do with "evangelicals."

https://www.elca.org/findacongregation

efhmc

(14,989 posts)
26. Don't go as much as I used to since I now live an hour away from one but I do recommend the ELCA
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:11 PM
Feb 2024

but AVOID at all cost a Missouri Synod Lutheran. They are way backwards, especially when it comes to women.

nycbos

(6,278 posts)
8. I am a Jewish atheist.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:48 PM
Feb 2022

But I would suggest the episcopal church. My dad what is an Episcopalian until he converted after I graduated college. I didn't grow up having Chinese food on Christmas I went to church on Christmas Eve. The episcopal church seems to be very welcoming towards women LGBT people etc.

There is a Presbyterian Church in my neighborhood rainbow flag. But then again I live on the north side of Chicago.

wnylib

(24,147 posts)
14. The Presbyterian church has two large
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 06:44 PM
Feb 2022

branches, one liberal and the other more traditionally conservative. The liberal branch is the largest and is referred to as the PCUSA, or, Presbyterian Church, USA.

Episcopal churches and the ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church in America) are also socially liberal. The word "Evangelical" in the name of the Lutheran Church has nothing to do with current evangelical fundamentalist churches. It is a historical carryover from the Protestant Reformation when Lutherans in Europe were called evangelical in comparison to the Catholic Church.

Methodist Churches have liberal and conservative branches, so be sure which is which.

A good way to find out about individual churches is to visit them. Go to a few services and see what the sermons, hymns, and prayers are like, and what groups exist within the church, e.g. committees, charity activities, any social activism. Also, ministers are always happy to have visitors and new members, so you can attend a few services and call the minister for an appointment to ask questions about the church. You can judge by their answers whether it is one you would be comfortable with.

summer_in_TX

(3,131 posts)
20. The United Methodist Church has been in the midst of a divorce
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:57 PM
Feb 2022

that the pandemic held up. One part of our denomination believes that God loves everyone, and who are any of us to stand between God and a person God calls.

The more fundamentalist side believes they are fighting to save the church from something unbiblical.

They ignore that fact that love is biblical, as Rachel Held Evans says.

I would listen to sermons online to find a place to suit you.

cilla4progress

(25,676 posts)
9. UU - I am a member.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:48 PM
Feb 2022

It is a haven in my right-leaning town for anyone with a position on the left - probably center, as well.

When you do your research you will see. They truly welcome all, though I'm certain there are flaws and imperfections.

They even have room for me - a pagan/ agnostic/humanist!

essaynnc

(863 posts)
11. Unitarian here too....
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:55 PM
Feb 2022

I would recommend, but if you're searching for a church more Christian in nature, then UU might not be for you. While everyone is invited and encouraged, UU does not use the Christian bible as their only source of teachings and inspiration. I'm very comfortable with that, even after spending many years as a Christian, but that would be your decision to make. I'm sure that your final choice would also based on what's available in your town. United Church of Christ or other liberal Christian churches may be the answer for you.

Clash City Rocker

(3,529 posts)
12. Most churches have websites, you could check those
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 06:18 PM
Feb 2022

Also, many churches post services on YouTube or some other online presence. Scouting a church has never been easier.

As some others have mentioned, some denominations have political leanings and others specifically avoid talking about politics. For example, I attend a nondenominational church that just goes by the Bible; I’ve never heard anyone in my church endorse anyone politically. On the other hand, there’s a church near us that we call the Trump church, because they’ve posted signs that said “Jesus said ‘all lives matter’” and “Please pray for president Trump” (but not for Biden). Evil people will usually tell you they’re evil, especially if they don’t know they’re evil.

wryter2000

(47,277 posts)
19. There are RW Episcopal churches
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 10:08 AM
Feb 2022

But most are great. Check the website. If they emphasize welcoming all, you probably found a good one.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
21. I also recommend the Episcopalians.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:18 PM
Mar 2022

Although as another poster put it, you can also check out other churches' websites. Decide if any of them are a fit for you.

RicROC

(1,223 posts)
22. I did an online search of churches in 92243..
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:41 AM
May 2022

no wonder you are having trouble finding finding a church compatible with your faith journey. What I find is that most all are VERY conservative. The only church I would even look at would be the Episc church(es) , the UU, or the American Baptist church. There are plenty of Baptist churches but if they are not 'American Baptist', then I'd assume they would be too conservative (for my taste).

I don't see any Lutheran (ELCA) there...the others are LCMS which I call the Misery Synod (and it has become very militantly anti-abortion and anti-woman ministers) The rest with various innocuous names would be too conservative, I would guess, be it Calvary Chapel, Assemblies of God, Victory, etc.

I tend to look out of the box, which means, if I found a compatible church an hour away, I definitely would check it out. Not that I would go every week, maybe once a month and then one/only of the positive results of covid, many churches still live-stream their services. Some churches have a once-per-month potluck...that's the Sunday I would attend and bring one of those dishes to pass which makes THEM remember YOU.

San Diego and Yuma have to have some progressive/liberal churches but I would look at the Palm Springs area. Now that's a liberal area, believe it or not.
On Facebook, check out the recorded livestream of 'Metropolitan Community Church of the Coachella Valley' (Church for All Souls) for an Anglo-Catholic flavor with great sermons & great music. Check out 'Hope Lutheran Church' ELCA of Palm Desert. Or 'St. Margaret's Episc. Church' of Palm Desert- that's a big church, great music, would easily would fit into a big city like Chicago.

I apologize for such a lengthy posting but your search piqued my interest, because it is also my search.

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