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Richard D

(9,623 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 07:35 PM Feb 14

Judaism is not a religion . . .

. . . It is a culture and civilisation deeply rooted in our land, our relationship with God, and our peoplehood.

by Ben Freeman

The Jews are a people. We are a nation. We are indigenous to the Land of Israel.

And while God plays a central role in our indigenous culture, we are not a religion. Our civilisation contains religion. There is a difference there. The notion that Jews are a religious group, or worse, a faith, is a direct influence of Christianity. It is not an authentic representation of Judaism.

The first mention of the word “Judaism” in history occurs in the Second Book of Maccabees. Written as Ioudaismos, it did not reference a religion; rather, it was used in opposition to Hellenism and ultimately meant Jewishness. Rabbi and Hebraist Shaye J.D. Cohen argued:

“We are tempted, of course, to translate Ioudaismos as ‘Judaism,’ but this translation is too narrow, because in this first occurrence of the term, Ioudaismos has not yet been reduced to the designation of a religion. It means rather ‘the aggregate of all those characteristics that makes Judaeans Judaean (or Jews Jewish).’”

It continues: https://substack.com/home/post/p-157166156
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Judaism is not a religion . . . (Original Post) Richard D Feb 14 OP
Monty Python taught us coprolite Feb 14 #1
What an odd comment. Richard D Feb 14 #2
It was humor coprolite Feb 14 #3
I got it. byronius Feb 16 #4
If it is not a religion why do you reference religion so much and quote religious writing? twodogsbarking Feb 16 #5
That's explained in the article nt Richard D Feb 16 #6
I wish you the best. twodogsbarking Feb 16 #7

coprolite

(360 posts)
3. It was humor
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 10:05 PM
Feb 14

Some of us learned about religions from other sources.

In hindsight thank you for educating us on the differentiation between the religion and the culture.

I am sorry I offended you.

byronius

(7,688 posts)
4. I got it.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 05:03 AM
Feb 16

I’m not Jewish, and grew up in utterly antisemitic environments (Saudi Arabia). My father was One Of Them (Texas Aggie, racist, antisemitic, misogynist, child abuser). I toured Dachau at ten — not to learn, but for my father’s pleasure.

The film line he’s quoting is both relevant and (as he said) humorous. Monty Python was extremely liberal and educational — I began reading Jewish history because of it.

Anyway — that’s what’s up.

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