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alp227

(32,519 posts) Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:25 PM Apr 2012

(UK prime minister) Cameron calls on Islam to embrace democracy and reject extremism

Democracy and Islam can flourish together, David Cameron will declare on Thursday as he uses a landmark speech in Indonesia to tell the Muslim world that it can reject a "dead-end choice" between extremism and dictatorship.

In one of his most significant speeches on Islam, the prime minister will say that the world can defeat extremists, who are a "dangerous foe" on a par with supporters of slavery.

Cameron will hail the "extraordinary journey" undertaken by Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim country, since the end of the Suharto dictatorship in 1998 as an example of the "inspirational path" countries can follow.

"What Indonesia shows is that in the world's largest Muslim-majority country, it is possible to reject this extremist threat and prove that democracy and Islam can flourish alongside each other," the prime minister will tell students at Al-Azhar University in Jakarta. "That's why what you are doing here is so important, because it gives heart to those around the world who are engaged in the same struggle."

full: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/12/cameron-islam-embrace-democracy-extremism

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(UK prime minister) Cameron calls on Islam to embrace democracy and reject extremism (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2012 OP

Maybe Cameron should have a word with the U.S. Republican party, too ... zbdent Apr 2012 #1

+1. Especially the TP faction. ife62995se Jul 2012 #3

Indonesia, an inspirational path? David Cameron should have asked Lady Gaga. jeanV Jun 2012 #2

zbdent

(35,392 posts)

1. Maybe Cameron should have a word with the U.S. Republican party, too ...

Reply to alp227 (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:17 PM

Apr 2012

ife62995se

(14 posts)

3. +1. Especially the TP faction.

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Mon Jul 23, 2012, 02:18 AM

Jul 2012

jeanV

(69 posts)

2. Indonesia, an inspirational path? David Cameron should have asked Lady Gaga.

Reply to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 03:39 AM

Jun 2012

"Cameron will hail the "extraordinary journey" undertaken by Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim country, since the end of the Suharto dictatorship in 1998 as an example of the "inspirational path" countries can follow. "? An inspirational path??

Just last week, a concert by Lady Gaga has had to be canceled and the tickets refunded because of threats by radical religious groups. Now don't get me wrong, Lady Gaga's music is absolutely not my cup of tea. The problem is the principle.

"extraordinary journey" undertaken by Indonesia, since the end of the Suharto dictatorship in 1998?? Another strange statement. Religious radicalism has been on the increase since Suharto left. Here again, don't get me wrong, dictatorships 'à la Suharto' are not my cup of tea either. The problem is the trend.

Cameron is dead on the money when he mentions the muslim world recently has faced a "dead-end choice" between extremism and dictatorship. What Cameron politely sweeps under the rug is that by reaction to the authoritarian regimes of the past, the peoples have tended to turn towards extremism, because they used to be the organized resistance to autocracy.

The best way to help the muslim world is to empower its moderates. We do these moderates a disservice when we pretend all is going well, and forget to point to the flaws too. The cancellation of Lady Gaga's concert should have been alluded to.

Out of support for the moderate muslims. And because it never hurts to call a spade a spade.

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