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in2herbs

(3,119 posts)
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 05:13 PM Feb 2019

Recently there was a discussion thread on DU concerning a person with cancer

choosing alternative medicine (essential oils) over conventional medicine for their treatment. For being a progressive site some of the replies chilled me to my core as some did not feel the cancer patient had a right to choose their course of treatment. Isn’t a person’s right to choose not only the core of the abortion debate but the genesis for other issues as well? How can one be against one’s right to choose their cancer treatment yet be in approval of one’s right to choose whether or not to have an abortion?

The comments resulted in my asking the question how intertwined the use of alternative medicine is to one’s connection to Mother Earth through their spirituality. Here is my conclusion.

I believe that spirituality is an energy force that is inherent in everything that inhabits Mother Earth. Expansion of one’s energy force results in a higher understanding of our place and our connectedness to things that are greater and other than human. It is through this perception and understanding that one accepts the reality that Mother Earth has provided all who inhabit this earth with natural resources for healing. The acceptance and use of these natural resources is the connection that makes the respect for Mother Earth, alternative medicines, and spirituality inextricably bound.

Unfortunately, over the centuries humans have rendered extinct some of the healing plants provided in nature. The following is a (short) list of some healing plants that still exist in nature. Willow Bark became aspirin. Paclitaxel, extracted from the Pacific yew, is the precursor to today’s cancer fighting chemotherapy drug marketed as Taxol and is considered to be one of the National Cancer Institute’s successes in their search for new cancer drugs from nature. Yohimbe is the precursor to Viagra. Bearberry is the precursor to sulfa drugs used to treat UTIs. Bitterleaf is a zoopharmacognosy remedy used by animals to treat parasites. Bloodroot is the precursor to commercial preparations to counteract dental plaque and gum disease. Brazil Nut provides the necessary micro-nutrient selenium in selenium-deprived areas. The ricin in the Castor Bean is being bioengineered to attach to antibodies that bind to and destroy cancer cells. Chaste Tree is the precursor to commercially prepared PMS remedies and for treatment of Parkinson’s. Forskohlii’s compound forskolin was found to calm muscle spasms, lower blood pressure, and as a prescription drug, is used for the treatment of hypothyroidism. Foxglove is the precursor to conventional drugs used in controlling edema associated with congestive heart failure. Happy Tree is the precursor for many cancer fighting drugs recognized and approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. In World War I a remedy containing Cannabis was given to horses in the military to treat colic episodes.

Clearly, there is a use for conventional medicine and a use for alternative medicine and their uses can be inclusive, not exclusive.

Namaste.

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Iwasthere

(3,376 posts)
1. I believe that many of those healing plants are useful in their whole form
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 05:35 PM
Feb 2019

In fact can be more powerful raw. Various nuts, Elderberry, cannabis oil - rso, apricot seeds, sunflower seeds. Manuka honey, papaya seeds, kiwi, beets, and so many others. Eat whole foods, live a long vibrant life right up to the end. Stay away from doctors! I only go to them if I break a bone, cut myself, or hit my head. No sceenings for me. There was a study done involving those that lived beyond 100 (centurians). They found that a large group of those that died after 100 had numerous types of cancer during their lives, that shriveled up on their own. Often todays cures are a death sentence. Our cancer treatment methods are antiquated and dangerous. If you have a tumor find out its source, what made it grow? Go after that, not the symptom (or tumor). Cutting them out and using chemo often opens up the body to other problems. Eat whole foods, stay away from all chemicals (caustic house cleaners, unnatural hygiene products. Just my opinion?

in2herbs

(3,119 posts)
3. My favorite is liquid Maritime Pine Bark. Elderberry tonic would be second and I also use CBD oil
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 06:57 PM
Feb 2019

and 1:1 to control inflammation and auto-immune support.

vsrazdem

(2,184 posts)
2. I totally agree with you that there is a place for holistic and alternative medicine; however,
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 05:36 PM
Feb 2019

I also believe you should not exclude the scientific data when making a decision. Many illnesses can be assisted with herbal medications. Cancer is just not one of those illness. If there is a potential curative effect for cancer with surgery/chemo/radiation I think it would be foolish not to at least try that route, but that is only my opinion. I would not encourage anyone to put toxic chemicals or radiation into their body unless they had a decent prognosis for recovery. When diagnosed, doctors would likely go through all the risks and benefits and, survival rates with and without scientific medication. If their situation is one of palliation only, and they are desirous of only comfort care measures to make them more comfortable, then I say go for any alternative means that will will get the results. In the end, only the person with the illness can make that decision.

in2herbs

(3,119 posts)
4. That is one of the frustrating things re this issue. There is little to no scientific data about
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 07:04 PM
Feb 2019

plant medicine's use with conventional medicine because of politics and greed so doctors are reticent to incorporate the two. I was reading about a natural pain reliever RTX that claims to be as effective as opoids for pain, especially cancer pain. The NIH has been involved in clinical trials but try to find a conventional dr that even knows about it!

cpamomfromtexas

(1,339 posts)
5. Thank you for posting. I agree with you. My body my rights. Period.
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 07:07 PM
Feb 2019

We need medical freedom here. Other countries have options we do not have.

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