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NNadir

(34,666 posts)
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 11:59 AM Nov 2022

How the Great Depression shaped people's DNA

From my Nature News Feed: How the Great Depression shaped people’s DNA

Subtitle:

Epigenetics study finds that children born during the historic recession have markers of accelerated ageing later in life.


It may be open sourced, but if not, some excerpts:

The worst recession in US history shaped how well people would age — before they were even born. Researchers have found1 that the cells of people who were conceived during the Great Depression, which lasted from 1929 to 1939 and, at its height, saw about 25% of the US workforce unemployed, show signs of accelerated ageing.

The study authors measured these changes in the cells’ epigenome — the collection of chemical markers attached to DNA that determines when, where and by how much genes are expressed in each cell. And they think the pattern of markers that they uncovered could be linked to higher rates of both chronic illness and death.

The work, published on 8 November in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences1, adds to a cache of studies indicating that exposure to hardship such as stress and starvation during the earliest stages of development can shape human health for decades. The findings highlight how social programmes designed to help pregnant people could be a tool for fighting health disparities in children, says co-author Lauren Schmitz, an economist at the University of Wisconsin–Madison.

Although the study is far from the first to link big historical events to changes in the epigenome, the fact that the signal appears in data collected from people in their seventies and eighties is “mind-blowing”, says Patrick Allard, an environmental epigeneticist at the University of California, Los Angeles.

“It’s definitely something that will make its way into the textbooks,” he says...

...The alterations made during this key window can last a lifetime. In 2008, researchers found2 that people conceived during a famine in the Netherlands at the end of the Second World War had different epigenetic markers compared with siblings born outside this time frame. Those born during the famine had higher rates of metabolic illness later in life, leading scientists to suspect that their exposure to malnutrition during early development permanently shaped how their bodies processed food3.

Since then, a slew of animal studies have linked early exposure to pollutants, stress and poor diet to a wide variety of epigenetic alterations that can shape everything from hair colour to brain development4,5. But only a handful of studies have succeeded in finding these trends in humans, says Ainash Childebayeva, a biological anthropologist at the Max Plank Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.


The article makes a point about the consequences of the reactionary highly politicized thug Samuel Alito - a religious bigot fond of the era of the Inquisition - and his fellow highly politicized unqualified illegitimate thugs installed on the US Supreme court, decimating its legitimacy, suspending human rights in the United States:

...Nonetheless, “these kinds of studies are really important because they highlight how early development matters for health and disease outcomes later in life”, she (Chilebayeva) says.

Although both health care for pregnant people and economic theory have evolved since the 1930s, Schmitz thinks that studies such as this one can shed light on societal issues today. For instance, earlier this year, the US Supreme Court revoked the federal right to an abortion. Decades of research have shown that people who are denied abortions are more likely to experience financial hardship after an unwanted pregnancy than are those who can access abortions...


The full scientific article is here: Lauren L. Schmitz, Valentina Duque In utero exposure to the Great Depression is reflected in late-life epigenetic aging signatures, PNAS 119 (46) e2208530119.

The authors tracked methylation sites in DNA as obtained from public databases as well as restricted databases. The methylation of DNA is a way of tracking biological aging as opposed to chronological aging.

I trust you're having a nice weekend.
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How the Great Depression shaped people's DNA (Original Post) NNadir Nov 2022 OP
I can believe that bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #1
Same for my parents. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2022 #4
👀 fascinating underpants Nov 2022 #2
Epigenetics is underappreciated by many. For example it explains why one identical twin Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #3
I was born in Nov. 1929, The start Of the Great Depression. Without money Mom and Dad had to go to katmondoo Nov 2022 #5
My 91 year old momsaysthe same. intheflow Nov 2022 #6
Wow. You are old enough to be my mother, one of the few. I congratulate myself on having lived... NNadir Nov 2022 #8
My Parents Were Born During the Depression Deep State Witch Nov 2022 #7

bucolic_frolic

(47,006 posts)
1. I can believe that
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 12:05 PM
Nov 2022

and the effects on 10 to 20 years olds during the Great Depression likely wasn't without consequences either. Sub par nutrition has an effect on the growing brain. Maybe hopelessness and its psychology hurt a bit too, reverbing back on the biological end of things. Said because my parents fit that time slot. And as I age I can see they weren't the most resilient beings mentally, and I would argue lacked some capacity and adaptability. Maybe it wasn't all psychological.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. Same for my parents.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 12:21 PM
Nov 2022

They would both have been affected, even though my dad was 10 years older than my mom.

They also both lived in an atomic fallout zone. My mom once told me that trucks used to drive around her small town, spraying DDT into people’s open window screens. My dad survived two years in a Bataan prison camp.

It probably wasn’t all psychological.

underpants

(186,674 posts)
2. 👀 fascinating
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 12:08 PM
Nov 2022

Reading fully later.

I don’t know if it mentions this (not really the same age group) but WWII draftees were rejected at at least a 25% level mostly due to dental and vision. I’ve seen numbers higher. After they War this was part of the basis for the School Lunch Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_School_Lunch_Act

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,924 posts)
3. Epigenetics is underappreciated by many. For example it explains why one identical twin
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 12:19 PM
Nov 2022

For example it explains why one identical twin might get cancer and the other, even though they live in the same town with the same diet and habits.

It is yet another way that "hurt people hurt people" down through the generations.

katmondoo

(6,498 posts)
5. I was born in Nov. 1929, The start Of the Great Depression. Without money Mom and Dad had to go to
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 01:45 PM
Nov 2022

my grandmother's. Iwas born there and never paid for. To keep me warm I was put in the oven, the old fashioned wood burning type. I am now 93. Lived though the depression and WWII, also lived at a time when women really had very few rights. It begins again and I feel sorry for the young women of today.

intheflow

(28,941 posts)
6. My 91 year old momsaysthe same.
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 02:56 PM
Nov 2022

She never expected this authoritarian turn in American politics and really worries for her great-granddaughter's future.

NNadir

(34,666 posts)
8. Wow. You are old enough to be my mother, one of the few. I congratulate myself on having lived...
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 04:29 PM
Nov 2022

...as long as I have, but you are certainly worthy of far more congratulations.

My late father-in-law, a physician, was also born in 1929. He lived to 86, but his parents were relatively well off inasmuch as they had food throughout the depression. He was fairly healthy until the last year.

My mother, one of 13 children, ten of whom lived to adulthood, died when she was 51. She was born in 1924, before the depression; I doubt that prenatal malnutrition was an issue for her.

I expect the young women of these times will prove to be a great generation. I don't feel sorry for them in the long term. Rather I feel sorry for those who seek to oppress them. Ultimately they will prove strong; I believe they won't go back.

I do not expect to live as long as you have, but as I approach the end of my life, I am filled with joy and gratitude for all that I have experienced, known, and loved. This is not a religious feeling; but rather, for lack of a better term, a spiritual one.

I trust and hope it is the same with you, that you have enjoyed the privilege of living as much as I have.

Deep State Witch

(11,258 posts)
7. My Parents Were Born During the Depression
Sat Nov 26, 2022, 03:13 PM
Nov 2022

My parents were born during the Depression. Although my mom's family had enough to eat because my GF was a baker, I know that it impacted her outlook on life. Both her and her older sister (born in 1928) were very materialistic. They also died relatively early. Aunt Betty was an alcoholic and smoker. Mom was a former smoker, but had heart damage from having rheumatic fever as a child. Both of them died in their 70's. My mom's younger sister, however, was born in 1941. She went to college, moved out of town and escaped a lot of the family trauma, and is going strong at age 83.

Not sure about my dad's family during the Depression, but I know that he was the youngest brother. I think my paternal GF worked during the Depression, but I'm not sure.

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