Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

NNadir

(34,533 posts)
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 09:32 PM Sep 2023

I'll wait for DU4 to discuss this paper.

(I'm looking forward to the return of exponents in text. I've missed them.)

The paper in question:

Feasible Strategy for Large-Scale Production of 224Ra as a Promising α-Emitting Therapy Radionuclide Long Qiu, Jianrong Wu, Ning Luo, Qian Xiao, Junshan Geng, Lingting Xia, Feize Li, Jiali Liao, Yuanyou Yang, Jinsong Zhang, and Ning Liu Industrial & Engineering Chemistry Research 2023 62 (35), 14001-14011

Teaser graphic:



I absolutely love finding uses, via transmutation series, uses for "waste" nuclides. It's been a long time since radium was isolated from uranium ores, and we do have tailings.

(For the record, we have at Oak Ridge, a viable supply of Th-228; hopefully we don't get stupid and bury it.)

4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I'll wait for DU4 to discuss this paper. (Original Post) NNadir Sep 2023 OP
hopefully we don't get stupid and bury it lapfog_1 Sep 2023 #1
There is no reason at all to bury any radionuclides in my view. NNadir Sep 2023 #2
well, all I was asking was "is there a problem with burying it?" lapfog_1 Sep 2023 #3
And I was saying yes, there is a problem with burying it. NNadir Sep 2023 #4

lapfog_1

(30,056 posts)
1. hopefully we don't get stupid and bury it
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 09:37 PM
Sep 2023

if we bury it in some sort of casks in salt mines, etc... so long as we don't forget where we buried it, can we not retrieve it again later if we need it?

I will assume we don't bury it in leaky containers that corrode and poison our own ground water.

NNadir

(34,533 posts)
2. There is no reason at all to bury any radionuclides in my view.
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 09:42 PM
Sep 2023

They are all valuable, precisely because they are radioactive.

Were we to do so, and "forget where we buried it," it would be of very low consequence.

As for radium, the planet has always existed with "buried" radium, largely radium-226, which is secular equilibrium with uranium, and has been so for billions of years, since the formation of this planet. Radium-224 is formed in the decay series of thorium, but the concentration is very low, precluding isolation.

lapfog_1

(30,056 posts)
3. well, all I was asking was "is there a problem with burying it?"
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 09:47 PM
Sep 2023

so long as we remember where we buried it.

I'll take it that as yeah, there isn't any problem with putting it underground for storage.

Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»Science»I'll wait for DU4 to disc...