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Related: About this forumContinuous Capture and Reduction of CO2 in an Electrochemical Molten-Salt System with High Efficiency
The paper to which I'll briefly discuss in this post is this one: Continuous Capture and Reduction of CO2 in an Electrochemical Molten-Salt System with High Efficiency Wan Li Bai, Yu Zhang, and Jian Nong Wang ACS Sustainable Chemistry & Engineering 2023 11 (42), 15364-15372.
The paper is free to read on line, no subscription is required, but I'll excerpt a few pieces of the paper and make some comments.
The first, and perhaps most important point to make is that this device should not be construed as a perpetual motion machine. Because of all the hype that would be silly were it not obscenely delusional, electricity is not "green," because it is not a form of primary energy and because, despite endless marketing, it is generally not made using so called "renewable energy." As of 2022, as reported in the 2023 WEO released this past week, wind and solar energy remain trivial and essentially useless despite continuous soothsaying directed at them.
On the contrary electricity is a thermodynamically degraded form of energy and except where made using nuclear energy, is not sustainable.
This said, were we to capture more exergy from nuclear energy by utilizing high temperature processes, electricity might be a side product of other valuable processes, in particular thermochemical processes and thus conceivably more valuable as a way to increase the thermodynamic efficiency in utilizing nuclear energy.
As electrochemical processes for the reduction of carbon dioxide go, I am more enamored of a system I discussed on this website some time ago, a lithium free system: Electrolysis of Lithium-Free Molten Carbonates
This system uses lithium.
Some text from the paper:
Molten-salt based electrolytic cells have received widespread attention because they work at relatively lower temperatures than SOECs, with the use of molten salts as the electrolyte. For example, by using the molten CsH2PO4 salt with superconductivity as the electrolyte, CO2 reduction can be performed at a low temperature of 350 °C. (18) Furthermore, molten salts possess advantages of a wide electrochemical window, high ionic conductivity, and excellent durability. (19−21) In recent years, extensive studies have focused on the electrolysis of carbon dioxide by molten salts to prepare a variety of high-value carbon materials, such as amorphous carbon, (22) graphene, (23) carbon nanotubes, (24) carbon spheres, (25) etc., which have great potential for applications as anode materials for batteries. (26) In addition, molten salt electrolysis can also convert CO2 into clean fuels, such as carbon monoxide, (27) syngas (a mixture of H2 and CO), (28) methane, (29) and long-chain hydrocarbon fuels. (30,31) However, current molten salt electrolysis is mainly based on a single cell made up of magnesium oxide or corundum crucibles. The disadvantage of such an electrolytic cell is that the gaseous products from the reactions taking place on both the cathode and anode are released together and with the remaining CO2. (28,32,33) In this case, further separation of gaseous products is needed, which significantly increases the operation cost. (34,35) In addition, the electrolysis system has been mainly based on the one-pot method in which the molten salts have to be replaced with new ones after each run. (36,37) This leads to a discontinuous process of the capture and conversion of CO2 and thus a limited CO2 conversion efficiency and eventual difficulty in practical applications. To date, the anode catalysts used for the molten salt electrolysis mainly include the iron-based, nickel-based, tin-based materials, or their alloys. The cathode catalysts are mainly commercial materials, such as iron, nickel, and titanium. (8,33,38) There are also a few studies using metal oxides and liquid metals as cathodes to promote the carbon dioxide reduction by the in situ formed nanoparticles. (39,40) However, the research about the catalysts used in molten salt electrolysis has still been limited, and it is still highly desirable to develop highly active, selective, and stable catalysts for CO2 conversion in the molten salt system. Therefore, challenges remain to achieve continuous and efficient electrochemical reduction of CO2 from molten salt systems.
If the electricity is made, as most electricity on this planet now is, from dangerous fossil fuels, the device operating on such electricity would essentially be an effort to make a perpetual motion machine: It wouldn't work without producing more carbon dioxide than it reduced, and would actually be environmentally destructive.
A graphic from the paper however shows that it is basically conceived of as being a device for making both hydrogen and methane from CO2.
The caption:
If carbon free electricity were generally available - it isn't - it might be worthy of consideration on some level.
It's a cute device, and perhaps might even be utilized as a direct air capture device is esoteric settings, but it isn't a perpetual motion machine and it isn't going to magically solve all of our problems.
This said, molten salt chemistry in general has much to recommend itself in creating a sustainable world, an effort that cannot be said to be underway in any sense. Right now most environmental efforts, including the enormously popular ones, are simply rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic to listen to the nice rendition of "Nearer My God to Thee."
Have a nice day tomorrow.