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Judi Lynn

(162,290 posts)
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 05:11 PM Jun 2024

All Human Existence May Have Begun in a Black Hole, Some Scientists Believe

There’s an intriguing possibility that the emergence of conscious life is not just a coincidence, but an inevitable outcome of cosmic evolution.

BY TIM ANDERSEN
PUBLISHED: MAY 10, 2024

Have you ever wondered why our universe is made up of something rather than nothing? It can hurt your brain if you think about it too much because if there were nothing you would have no brain—no you at all—to consider the question.

So let’s contemplate something simpler: why does the universe allow us to exist? Yet again, we run into the same problem: if the universe didn’t allow us to exist, we wouldn’t be here to think about it. This is called the “anthropic principle.” For some, it’s the only answer we need to explain, well, everything; but for others, it’s a philosophical thorn in the side. Everything we know about the universe so far—dating back to the 16th-century Polish astronomer Copernicus, who first proposed that Earth travels around the sun rather than the other way around—tells us that we have no special place in the cosmos. We are not at the center. This is the “Copernican principle.”

Why do we exist as self-aware beings, tiny in size and minuscule in lifespan, relative to the lonely cosmic vastness mostly devoid of life?

The anthropic and Copernican principles are conflicting axioms about the universe’s existence and our place within it. The anthropic principle says the universe depends on our being here. Meanwhile, the Copernican principle says that we are not special, and no law of physics should depend on our existence. Yet, the vast and ancient universe we see in our telescopes appears to balance both principles, like a pin balanced on the edge of a glass.

So why is our universe the way it is, and why do we exist as self-aware beings, tiny in size and minuscule in lifespan, relative to the lonely cosmic vastness mostly devoid of life? If the universe were made just for us, surely it would be small, human sized, perhaps just one planet or solar system or galaxy, not billions. Why should a universe made for us have black holes, for example? They seem to contribute nothing to our welfare.

More:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a60717306/cosmological-natural-selection-theory-explained/

Or:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240604060902/https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a60717306/cosmological-natural-selection-theory-explained/


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All Human Existence May Have Begun in a Black Hole, Some Scientists Believe (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2024 OP
And if there are an infinitude of universes then there will be one or more that are fit for us. erronis Jun 2024 #1
If a proton can tunnel, well, there you go. Arne Jun 2024 #2
Copernicus was not the first. Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #3
Non-paywall link BWdem4life Jun 2024 #4
Thanks for that link, I really wanted to read that article and couldn't under the other links. Jim__ Jun 2024 #5

erronis

(16,744 posts)
1. And if there are an infinitude of universes then there will be one or more that are fit for us.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 05:19 PM
Jun 2024

I can see a bunch of angels dancing on the head of a pin.

Voltaire2

(14,631 posts)
3. Copernicus was not the first.
Sun Jun 9, 2024, 06:07 PM
Jun 2024

There were Greeks (of course) who figured this out. Aristarchus of Samos in the 4th century bce for example. Aristotle rejected this because there was no observed parallax effect. As whatever Aristotle happened to state became dogma within the scholastic philosophy of the middle ages, that’s where we got stuck for about 1000 years.

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