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Related: About this forumEvidence That Your Mind is NOT Just In Your Brain - Rupert Sheldrake
In this episode Rupert Sheldrake, biologist and author, debunks the standard view that the mind is nothing but brain activity and argues that our mind is extended in every act of visual perception.
Rupert has designed an app to enable you to test your sensitivity to being looked at from behind, and to find out if you can improve with practice. The test takes just a few minutes to complete. https://www.sheldrake.org/participate . If you find you or your partner can indeed improve with practice, scoring repeatedly and fairly reliably above 75%, please let us know by email at sheldrake@sheldrake.org
For more information about Rupert Sheldrake's research, visit https://www.sheldrake.org/
This talk was part of the 2023 Holberg Debate at the University of Bergen with the neuroscientist Anil Seth and the anthropologist Tanya Luhrmann. The full debate can be seen here: Does Consciousness Extend Beyond Brai...
Arne
(3,568 posts)Uncle Joe
(59,996 posts)Arne
(3,568 posts)and impressionable.
Castaneda concludes that Don Juan's teachings are not meant to be understood intellectually, but to be experienced and lived. They offer a different way of perceiving and interacting with the world, one that is more fluid, mysterious, and full of possibilities. In the end, The Teachings of Don Juan is not just a book about shamanism, but a profound exploration of the nature of reality and the human potential.
somaticexperiencing
(536 posts)dickthegrouch
(3,507 posts)We all know when someone is looking into our eyes. There is an undefined invisible connection when that occurs. It even causes reactions of excitement and pleasure in some and loathing and discomfort in others.
Martin68
(24,419 posts)from sensory nerves by the brain.
Warpy
(113,093 posts)We could be picking up on something like an olfactory signal, we just don't know yet. It's one of those spooky things that cases us to keep asking questions and designing ways to test it out.
To suggest we know everything about consciousness and how it interacts with the environment is silly, we don't even know what consciousness really is.
Martin68
(24,419 posts)the ears, the nose, and the skin. The fact that the brain is involved doesn't make it less miraculous or interesting. What is being described here would certainly be worth investigating in regard to how the brain receives, processes and responds to this information. Now that we have imaging tools that indicate where in therein activity is taking place when receive sensory input, or even when we think about something, it is in the realm of possibility to study it.
Warpy
(113,093 posts)I've felt some creeper giving me the hard stare from the nest subway car, so that explanation doesn't work for me. Boston subway cars are closed, no way for some olfactory signal to get through 2 layers of glass and steel.
It really has to do with the predator/prey paradigm, IMHO, some evolutionary quirk that served me well as a woman alone in a hard core urban environment. It needs exploration but other than verifying its existence, we have no way to measure it or determine exactly what it is.
Uncle Joe
(59,996 posts)So my question is when we observe the visual product; of sub-atomic particles, humans and animals with just our naked eye, does that rudimentary observation still change or alter the behavior of those sub-atomic particles, even though it's not visible to the viewer?
If that's the case then perhaps the person or animal being viewed may feel at some instinctual level the effect of their own sub-atomic particles being altered by a viewer.
Warpy
(113,093 posts)I sure don't have a clue and equipment to measure what's going on hasn't been invented yet.
Martin68
(24,419 posts)Uncle Joe
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to even become aware, vision, hearing, touch, smell, or taste?
Martin68
(24,419 posts)that interact with some hard-wired responses. All of this information is coordinated, analyzed, and acted on by the brain, but in the case of what we call instinct, the process is not accessible to the conscious mind. It takes place behind the scenes, so to speak, which is why it often seems mysterious our uncanny.
Uncle Joe
(59,996 posts)"being watched" in their experiments per the OP were children under the age of 9.
Having said that I do believe the sub-conscious plays the predominant role in those feelings.
cynical_idealist
(434 posts)just because we can't explain something doesn't mean it's not possible.
(and i'm not superstitious)
Martin68
(24,419 posts)ago. I think I might term it an adolescence at this point considering how far we've come.
NJCher
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Of Robert Monroe knows what this is.
There are people who can do this at will. I cant, but havent tried very hard. By do this, I mean learn how to get your consciousness to leave your body and go places. There is a forum at Reddit called astral projection where you can read about their experiences.
In reference to some of the first posts on this thread,, there is also a sub-Reddit called Gateway. The Gateway tapes are mental exercises that Monroe created and tested that shortcut the meditation or focus exercises that are part of being able to astral project. Our CIA used them.
Monroe has three books out. It helps to have read them before reading the experiences of people experimenting with consciousness leaving the body.
Some people cannot fathom how this works and are dependent on science to prove this to them. Science is too slow for me, so Ive had to look elsewhere for my answers.
Uncle Joe
(59,996 posts)Whether it was that or self-hypnosis I was literally floating through the ceiling up to the clouds with a very powerful feeling of euphoria.
I felt extremely connected and motivated.
NJCher
(37,623 posts)Will comment more tomorrow. Four thirty am is when I go to sleep.