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usonian

(12,276 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 04:50 PM Sep 5

Remember the visible human science kit?




Maybe you can be one yourself.

Common food dye found to make skin and muscle temporarily transparent
Researchers say procedure not yet tested on people could eventually be used to help locate injuries or tumours

https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/sep/05/common-food-dye-found-to-make-skin-and-muscle-temporarily-transparent

Researchers have peered into the brains and bodies of living animals after discovering that a common food dye can make skin, muscle and connective tissues temporarily transparent.

Applying the dye to the belly of a mouse made its liver, intestines and bladder clearly visible through the abdominal skin, while smearing it on the rodent’s scalp allowed scientists to see blood vessels in the animal’s brain.

Treated skin regained its normal colour when the dye was washed off, according to researchers at Stanford University, who believe the procedure opens up a host of applications in humans, from locating injuries and finding veins for drawing blood to monitoring digestive disorders and spotting tumours.

“Instead of relying on invasive biopsies, doctors might be able to diagnose deep-seated tumours by simply examining a person’s tissue without the need for invasive surgical removal,” said Dr Guosong Hong, a senior researcher on the project. “This technique could potentially make blood draws less painful by helping phlebotomists easily locate veins under the skin.”


Works fine on rodents.
Spoiler alert: tartrazine, a yellow food dye used in US Doritos, SunnyD drink and other products.

⚠️ Do not experiment with this stuff. Wouldn't hurt to avoid Doritos and SunnyD as well. California just banned 4 food additives.

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/10/1204839281/california-ban-food-additives-red-dye-3-propylparaben-candy

brominated vegetable oil, potassium bromate, propylparaben and red dye 3 will be banned effective 2027.
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usonian

(12,276 posts)
5. Reduces scattering, apparently.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:01 PM
Sep 5

I consulted for a startup that tried to sense blood glucose levels through the skin. Scattering was a big problem.

erronis

(16,418 posts)
4. You know people (kids, etc.) are going to be experimenting with this!
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:00 PM
Sep 5

I can see some parties: You show me yours and I'll show you mine...

MLF1981

(80 posts)
8. Wow, this is some crazy sci-fi shit for sure...
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:24 PM
Sep 5

I wish I knew how to post images, the picture from the article is mindblowing.

usonian

(12,276 posts)
9. Have to take a screenshot. I tried to save the image and it was hampered, probably by JavaScript.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:32 PM
Sep 5

I can use some of my graphics magic.
Webmasters better not mess with me!



Done.

MLF1981

(80 posts)
13. So, off-topic but...
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 06:10 PM
Sep 5

How in the world DO you post images? I'm fine with saving them locally and then uploading, but for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to insert them into a post. Most forums have either BBCode or another standard that makes it pretty easy.

usonian

(12,276 posts)
14. It's good that you ask.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 06:30 PM
Sep 5

Short answer is this thread in Photography.

https://democraticunderground.com/103659987

Pictures have to be hosted elsewhere, and a link posted here.

Some image URL's that you get from a web search are not rendered by DU's code, so save the image, optionally convert it from webp to jpeg or png, ands upload it to a host. I have used imgbb and postimages.

I could code up something offsite to make it easier, but then I'd have to pay for hosting and bandwidth, and be liable for all the stuff people post. Wish it were easier. I have posted image conversion help in the computer forum.

Like this:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/109534957

Lochloosa

(16,296 posts)
15. So that is why my fingers disappear when I'm eating a bag of Doritos....
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:01 PM
Sep 5

and I thought it was the Acid...

usonian

(12,276 posts)
16. The salt will kill you.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:32 PM
Sep 5

The dye has to be under the skin. No fun at all. But as I noted above, something like this could make medical diagnostic gear work much better. We shall "see"

sl8

(16,137 posts)
17. Science: "Achieving optical transparency in live animals with absorbing molecules"
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:30 AM
Sep 6
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adm6869

Achieving optical transparency in live animals with absorbing molecules

ZIHAO OU, YI-SHIOU DUH, [...], AND GUOSONG HONG +18 authors

SCIENCE
6 Sep 2024
Vol 385, Issue 6713
DOI: 10.1126/science.adm6869

Editor’s summary

Optical imaging of biological tissues is hindered by the scattering and, to a lesser extent, absorption of light that limits the penetration depth. Ou et al. addressed this problem through an approach that at first may seem counterintuitive: the introduction of highly absorbing molecules (see the Perspective by Rowlands and Gorecki). The authors show that the addition of common dye molecules that absorb in the near ultraviolet and blue regions improve optical transparency in nearby longer wavelengths. In essence, by causing sharp absorption in the blue region, the refractive index in the red part of the spectrum is increased without increasing absorption. The addition of tartrazine was able to make the skin of a live rodent temporarily transparent. —Marc S. Lavine


Structured Abstract
INTRODUCTION


A challenge in trying to image biological matter is that its complex structure causes opacity because of unwanted light scattering. This scattering results from refractive index mismatches among the components of biological tissues, limiting the penetration depth of optical imaging. The desire to see inside biological tissue and uncover the fundamental processes of life has spurred extensive research into deep-tissue optical imaging methods, such as two-photon microscopy, near-infrared-II fluorescence imaging, and optical tissue clearing. However, these methods either lack sufficient penetration depth and resolution or are unsuitable for living animals. Therefore, the ability to achieve optical transparency in live animals holds promise for transforming many optical imaging techniques.


[...]

RESULTS

Following our theory, we found that an aqueous solution of a common food color approved by the US Food and Drug Administration, tartrazine, has the effect of reversibly making the skin, muscle, and connective tissues transparent in live rodents. We conducted experiments in both tissue-mimicking scattering hydrogels and ex vivo biological tissues. These tests confirmed the mechanism underlying our observations and showcased the achievable spatial resolution down to the micrometer level through millimeters of scattering medium once transparency is attained. By using absorbing dye molecules, we can transform the typically opaque abdomen of a live mouse into a transparent medium. This “transparent abdomen” allows for direct visualization of fluorescent protein–labeled enteric neurons, capturing their movements that mirror the underlying gut motility in live mice. This enabled us to generate time-evolving maps that depict mouse gut motility and the diversity of movement patterns. To demonstrate the generalizability of this approach, we also applied dye solutions topically to the scalp of a mouse head for visualizing cerebral blood vessels and to the mouse hindlimb for high-resolution microscopic imaging of muscle sarcomeres.


CONCLUSION

Overall, we report the counterintuitive observation that strongly absorbing molecules can achieve optical transparency in live animals. The Lorentz oscillator model, which underlies this unusual observation, predicts that molecules with low resonance frequencies (long absorption wavelengths), sharp absorption peaks, and rich delocalized electrons are more effective candidates at raising the refractive index of the aqueous medium than are conventional optical clearing agents. Our approach also presents opportunities for visualizing the structure, activity, and functions of deep-seated tissues and organs without the need for surgical removal or the replacement of overlying tissues with transparent windows. Some limitations remain for this method, including reduced but not eliminated scattering owing to the challenge of matching refractive indices in heterogeneous tissues and achievable penetration depth depending on the diffusion of absorbing molecules.



Achieving optical transparency in live mice with absorbing dye molecules.
Strongly absorbing molecules dissolved in water can modify the RI of the aqueous medium through the Kramers-Kronig relations to match that of lipids. This approach can render various samples transparent, including scattering phantoms, chicken breast tissue, and live mouse body for visualizing a wide range of deep-seated structures and activities. Scale bars, 5 mm. [The schematic was prepared using BioRender.com]


[...]

eppur_se_muova

(36,942 posts)
18. Thanks ! Years ago, I saw a paper about how some biological specimens turn translucent when ...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 03:36 PM
Sep 6

preserved. I wish I could find that paper now, I don't remember any of the details. Probably has something to do with formaldehyde or something similarly toxic, but it would be interesting to know what it is.

There are numerous marine organisms, including fish, that are wholly or partly transparent. And several years ago, mfgrs started introducing transparent food items in several categories. So maybe it's not as hard to achieve as we usually think.

I read on DU about Swedish(?) researchers introducing a transparent wood that might serve as a substitute for glass in buildings. Might be cheaper and safer, but now the "glass" is flammable. :/

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