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70sEraVet

(4,143 posts)
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 08:14 AM Sep 2023

An archeologist learned about Neanderthals (and ourselves) by digging in one cave for decades

He points to the way prehistoric Homo Sapien and Neanderthal crafts are vastly different. “We might not know much about Neanderthals,” he goes on, “but through what they created, we can see something incredible. When you take Home Sapien tools made of flint, spanning tens of thousands of years, in different parts of the world, they’re always the same. Standardised. It can’t be cultural.” There was likely little contact between these different settlements. “There’s something innate within the behaviour of Homo Sapiens – within our behaviour – to act and think in a certain way. It’s in our nature.” Neanderthal crafts, though, don’t share this pattern of standardisation. “Look carefully at Neanderthal tools and weapons. They’re all unique. Study thousands and you’ll find each is completely different. My colleagues never realised that. But when I did, I saw there was a deep divergence in the way Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals each understand the world.”

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Slimak feels this comparison can and should be made with Neanderthals. “Their tools and weapons are more unique than ours. As creatures, they were far more creative than us. Sapiens are efficient. Collective. We think the same, and don’t like divergence. And I don’t just mean western culture. Go to any Aboriginal society: there are clear rules and customs, and shared styles of clothing. Expectation to act in a certain manner; to follow regulations.” Our ancestors, he says, lived like this instinctively. “You don’t see that with Neanderthals.” By seeing Neanderthals as a reference point against which we can measure ourselves, Slimak reckons humanity is offered a gift: “We have an opportunity to look in a mirror and see ourselves for what we truly are. To help us redefine, which we must do urgently.”

The way he sees it, this isn’t just an interesting philosophical theory. “Neanderthals vanished, I think, because of high human efficiency. And this efficiency now threatens to destroy us, too. That’s what’s killing the planet’s biodiversity.” For Slimak, The Naked Neanderthal isn’t a history book. “It’s about us in the present. Urging humanity to see itself for what it is by comparing us to something else, in the hope of changing the course of our future. Because by understanding our nature – and the risk this efficiency poses – we can save ourselves from a similar fate.” Over millennia, humankind has also developed an advanced, impressive technology and culture, of a type Neanderthals could never have imagined. “So while there is something dangerous in our nature, as a collective we can control and reshape it. Understanding this is the key to humanity’s future. Because if we don’t think carefully, next time it won’t be Neanderthals that our efficiency destroys, it’ll be humankind itself that’s the victim.”

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/sep/10/ludovik-slimak-neanderthal-hunter-reinterprets-our-prehistory
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An archeologist learned about Neanderthals (and ourselves) by digging in one cave for decades (Original Post) 70sEraVet Sep 2023 OP
The present Human Beings apparently back then were more into adapting............................... Lovie777 Sep 2023 #1
That may be a valid theory, but it's not the theory proposed in the OP. Random Boomer Sep 2023 #2

Lovie777

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1. The present Human Beings apparently back then were more into adapting...............................
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 09:06 AM
Sep 2023

to their environment. The Neanderthals per se were not.

Kinda sounds like the current GQP, RWers, etc. who prefers reverting back to the stone age, also I'll say they do like space.

Random Boomer

(4,249 posts)
2. That may be a valid theory, but it's not the theory proposed in the OP.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 08:44 PM
Sep 2023

Slimak theorizes that it was human efficiency, rather than adaptability, that gave our species the edge to out-compete Neanderthals.

It's an interesting new take on this old mystery.

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