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Related: About this forumMarking the Solstice: Ireland's Ancient Stone Circles...
Ciaran Ward on December 21, 2023, 7:00 am
With the winter solstice and shortest day of the year rapidly approaching its worth remembering the old traditions which predate any concept of Catholicism, Protestantism, Judaism, Islam, unionism or nationalism specifically neolithic (meaning literally new stone) stone circles and other prehistoric constructions which were built specifically to align with the rising or setting sun on solstice day.
You can watch a live stream broadcast of the solar alignment from possibly Irelands best-known megalithic site, Newgrange, on 21st December. The solstice (or in Irish Grianstad literally sun stop) occurs when direct sunlight enters the monument through its roof box aperture and illuminates the chamber for around 17 minutes. Provided its not too cloudy a day. With Newgrange dating back to approximately 3200 BC, the Neolithic astronomers of the day were quite possibly unaware of the irony in expecting winter sunshine in Ireland.
So far from the stereotype of primitive savages, our New Stone Age ancestors were considerably more clued up than we tend to give them credit for. They certainly knew their astronomy although back in those days before the advent of the street light, clear skies at night would have been the norm. But there are some dissenting voices, such as that of the archaeologist Michael Gibbons, who claims that Newgranges solstice sunlight phenomenon is a mere fabrication which came about during reconstruction works on the monument in the 1960s.
With very little remaining of the old pre-Christian Ireland, an island once covered in deciduous woodland, the various standing stones, stone circles, passage tombs and dolmens dotted around the country are a rare reminder of this bygone age. Im no expert on neolithic archaeology, but Ive had a lifelong fascination for the mystic appeal of the stone circle and the part it plays in popular culture, from Doctor Who to Children of the Stones to Spinal Tap. So apart from Newgrange itself, the only other similar sites Ive visited on the island to date are the hidden gems of the Beaghmore Stone Circles in Co. Tyrone and the Ballynoe Stone Circles in Co. Down. Both are well worth a visit if youre into that sort of thing.
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Marking the Solstice: Ireland's Ancient Stone Circles... (Original Post)
Judi Lynn
Dec 2023
OP
The #WinterSolstice arrives at 22:27 Thurs 21 Dec EST & 03:27 Fri 22 Dec GMT. The earth's northern pole tilts to its fur
riversedge
Dec 2023
#2
I enjoyed this post. I think a lot of people thought the ancients were just roaming
Deuxcents
Dec 2023
#4
leftyladyfrommo
(19,374 posts)1. I got to walk amongst the stones in Orkney.
And the ground was covered in heather. I guess it was a place where couples got married . It was very romantic.
riversedge
(73,120 posts)2. The #WinterSolstice arrives at 22:27 Thurs 21 Dec EST & 03:27 Fri 22 Dec GMT. The earth's northern pole tilts to its fur
#WinterSolstice
The #WinterSolstice arrives at 22:27 Thurs 21 Dec EST & 03:27 Fri 22 Dec GMT. The earths northern pole tilts to its furthest point from the sun, giving us #theshortestdayoftheyear with about 6-8 hrs until sunset, depending on how far north you are. #FolkloreThursday. #Yule
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tanyev
(44,502 posts)3. Marking to read later.
Deuxcents
(19,695 posts)4. I enjoyed this post. I think a lot of people thought the ancients were just roaming
From place to place for food but we are learning from so many sites that they were very intelligent and at times, had a lot of things figured out long before we have given them credit for. Their studies of the heavens and seasons and what theyve left behind for us to discover about them is that they were way ahead of us..a lot of the times.