Anthropology
Related: About this forumWe Now Know Exactly Where In The World Humans And Neanderthals Hooked Up
Our species wildly interbred with Neanderthals and we now know where.Tom Hale
Senior Journalist
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Katy Evans
Its a well-established (and slightly uncomfortable) fact that Homo sapiens and Neanderthals interbred with one another. Recent research looked into when this inter-species kanoodling occurred and now another new piece of research has investigated where exactly it happened.
Scientists took a close look at the geographical distribution of both species in Southwest Asia and Southeast Europe around the time we know they hooked up during the Late Pleistocene.
This revealed a clear location where the two human species overlapped with each other and likely interbred: the Zagros Mountains, a long mountain range on the Persian Plateau that stretches across the modern-day borders of Iran, northern Iraq, and southeastern Turkey.
The Zagros Mountains would have been an ideal place for the two species to rendezvous. The region has a diverse range of biodiversity and topography capable of supporting large stable human populations. Plus, it could have welcomed humans from other parts of the planet during the Pleistocene climatic shifts, acting as a corridor connecting the cooler Palearctic realm with the warmer Afrotropical realm.
The location also neatly lines up with the archeological record and genetic evidence. The Zagros Mountains region is rich in archaeological sites containing the remains of both Neanderthals and prehistoric Homo sapiens.
More:
https://www.iflscience.com/we-now-know-exactly-where-in-the-world-humans-and-neanderthals-hooked-up-75850
tanyev
(48,985 posts)Oh man, the psychedelics and the drumming!
rubbersole
(11,135 posts)...there was a coupon in Conde Nasty...
Dave Bowman
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Doodley
(11,825 posts)Beatlelvr
(790 posts)I doubt there was such a thing as romance!
OnionPatch
(6,324 posts)In those days, I don't think consent for sex was much of a thing.
erronis
(23,366 posts)It's sort of silly to think that homo sapiens were always dominant. And it's pretty obvious that there are many examples of individuals from different groups of animals (we are animals) being attracted to one another.
Doodley
(11,825 posts)mitch96
(15,767 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)EverHopeful
(678 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 8, 2024, 09:02 AM - Edit history (1)
Also recommend The Big Questions audio at the link discussing Hominins and Homo Sapiens. Learned of hominin species I hadn't heard of before.
No mention of human chromosome 2 which is a current fascination of mine but suppose it was outside the parameters of the discussion.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/07/3/l_073_47.html#
Apologies. I meant the audio link in the original OP. The link I added is a brief discussion of human chromosome 2. Afraid I'm not always as clear as I wish I was
erronis
(23,366 posts)Dan
(5,052 posts)wnylib
(25,487 posts)Picaro
(2,369 posts)Ive long had a hunch that the Neandertals disappeared due to interbreeding with homo sapiens rather than some violent genocide.
If someone has any expertise with paleo genetics feel free to chime in.
wnylib
(25,487 posts)HighFired49
(472 posts)from the Smithsonian. Not too technical, easy to read."Ancient DNA and Neanderthals" https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/ancient-dna-and-neanderthals
Picaro
(2,369 posts)I knew there would be one of our folks that would have found something germane to the topic.
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AverageOldGuy
(3,643 posts)Are the Zargos Mountains the location of the biblical Mount Ararat, where the mythical Noahs ark came to rest?
wnylib
(25,487 posts)CaptainTruth
(8,136 posts)That's what I heard.
hermetic
(9,200 posts)IMO, Extinction by Douglas Preston. Just published this year. It's fiction but has lots of scientific facts about Neanderthals and such. And it's also scary as hell. In case you're ever looking for something along those lines...
GreatShakes66
(105 posts)Neanderthals were humans. More brutish looking than modern humans, but still intelligent. Homo Sapiens at the time probably didn't look that great by modern standards either.
ShazzieB
(22,426 posts)Furthermore, homo sapiens sapiens (modern humans) and homo sapiens neanderthalensis (neanderthals) are subspecies of the species homo sapiens, not 2 different species. It's not at all surprising that they would interact with each other in a variety of ways, including sexually, when their paths crossed.
grumpyduck
(6,672 posts)the first thought I had was "in the halls of Congress."