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Do physicists believe in God? (video) (Original Post) DetlefK Apr 2015 OP
Pity the great physicists of the last century, Joe Chi Minh Apr 2015 #1
So you agree with Pauli that evolutionary theory suffers from an improbability problem? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #5
Seriously? enki23 Apr 2015 #8
I guess the defense of intelligent design is not going to be forthcoming. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #10
Geez, I thought you had left DU for good. trotsky Apr 2015 #11
I thought he was banned. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #12
Great memory, bmus! trotsky Apr 2015 #13
"corporatism had not yet imposed itself via its funding of scientific research" Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #14
Dafuq? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #15
Love the "What's your favorite astronomical feature?" section. AlbertCat Apr 2015 #2
Look at the Hubble deep-field photos Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #3
"Those are not the type of questions that you should ask." Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #4
Astronomical features were my favorite part. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #6
Einstein gets a bad rap Cartoonist Apr 2015 #7
But Einstein was very clear about his religious opinions... onager Apr 2015 #9

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
1. Pity the great physicists of the last century,
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 09:22 AM
Apr 2015

the ones who pioneered the great paradigm-changes all believed in intelligent design, ergo were, at least deists, such as Einstein, the poster boy for ID, Planck the founder of quantum mechanics, a Lutheran, than which no more successful paradigm has emerged, nor, it has been mathematically proved, can emerge; evidently, a uniquely curious phenomenon.

Bohr, too, insisted that consciousness precedes matter, while Pauli scoffed incredulously at the omission on the part of Darwinists to even perform a study of statistical probablilities:

'"In discussions with biologists I met large difficulties when they apply the concept of ‘natural selection’ in a rather wide field, without being able to estimate the probability of the occurrence in a empirically given time of just those events, which have been important for the biological evolution. Treating the empirical time scale of the evolution theoretically as infinity they have then an easy game, apparently to avoid the concept of purposesiveness. While they pretend to stay in this way completely ‘scientific’ and ‘rational,’ they become actually very irrational, particularly because they use the word ‘chance’, not any longer combined with estimations of a mathematically defined probability, in its application to very rare single events more or less synonymous with the old word ‘miracle.’” (pp. 27-28)

- Wolfgang Pauli

For the Darwinist (or Christian Darwinist) natural selection is, quite simply, magic. It is not and never could be anything else.

But then, corporatism had not yet imposed itself via its funding of scientific research in the universities.

enki23

(7,794 posts)
8. Seriously?
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:09 PM
Apr 2015

"For the Darwinist (or Christian Darwinist) natural selection is, quite simply, magic. It is not and never could be anything else. "

For future reference, use of the term "Darwinist" is an enormous strobing red light by which we recognize cranks.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
11. Geez, I thought you had left DU for good.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 03:08 PM
Apr 2015

One assumes one can only be humiliated so many times, but here you are again back for more it seems!

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
14. "corporatism had not yet imposed itself via its funding of scientific research"
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:04 AM
Apr 2015

About how much scientific research do you think is funded by private corporations, Mr. Sock Puppet?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
2. Love the "What's your favorite astronomical feature?" section.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:44 AM
Apr 2015

And that 1st physicist is kinda cute.......

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
3. Look at the Hubble deep-field photos
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015

with their tens of thousands of galaxies, each with millions of stars, each, possibly, with planets, and tell me with a straight face that a patch of desert in the Middle East is what "God" set aside as the "promised land" for his "chosen people". According to the Bible everything important that "God" ever did was done in that small patch of desert. It's not only supremely arrogant, it's sad and pathetic that people continue to believe such fairy tales.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
6. Astronomical features were my favorite part.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 02:47 PM
Apr 2015

There is so much awe and beauty to be found in our universe to wonder about. All the greater, for me, without hoping to find 'something more' to believe in.

Cartoonist

(7,531 posts)
7. Einstein gets a bad rap
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 02:57 PM
Apr 2015

He didn't know all the answers, so people peg him as a believer. None of his quotes has him kneeling before a God.

onager

(9,356 posts)
9. But Einstein was very clear about his religious opinions...
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:57 PM
Apr 2015
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. - Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman

It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. - Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, November 9, 1930


http://atheism.about.com/od/einsteingodreligion/tp/Einstein-on-a-Personal-God.htm
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