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LostOne4Ever

(9,597 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:58 AM Apr 2015

How Religious 'Liberty' Has Been Used to Justify Racism, Sexism and Slavery Throughout History

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Using religion to deny people rights is an old routine that harms both the church and the state.
By Zaid Jilani / AlterNet April 6, 2015[/center]

There has been an enormous backlash from Indiana's decision to enact a law that would allow businesses to discriminate if they invoke religious liberty. Responding to a flurry of boycott threats, Republican Governor Mike Pence signed a “fix” to the bill he says would prevent it from being used to discriminate.

But for the religious right, the battle lines have been drawn. 2016 presidential contenders like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, Ben Carson and others have all rushed to defend Indiana's legislation, as a number of state legislatures continue to debate enacting similar measures. In Louisiana, one Republican lawmaker is introducing a narrower bill specifically taking aim at marriage, with the intent to allow businesses to discriminate against same-sex weddings and deny benefits to employees in same-sex marriages.

In all of these examples, religious belief is invoked to justify a right to discriminate. Proponents argue that constitutional protections for religious freedom are insufficient, and these new laws—aimed at granting businesses themselves exemptions from laws based on the invocation of religion—are necessary. It's no surprise that these laws are proliferating around the same time marriage equality is slowly becoming the law of the land in most of the country. However, cries of religious liberty and a religious-based right to discriminatory and harmful behavior are not new. For centuries, religion has been used and abused as a shield for harmful behavior, to justify everything from slavery to sexist violence to racism in the Jim Crow South.

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How Religious 'Liberty' Has Been Used to Justify Racism, Sexism and Slavery Throughout History (Original Post) LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 OP
Correct forum this time :D LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #1
Good choice. :) trotsky Apr 2015 #2
It's just tragic that so many people deny this. trotsky Apr 2015 #3
religion is the way to rationalize the irrational olddots Apr 2015 #4
And to tell the congregation libodem Apr 2015 #5
Gramar Police AlbertCat Apr 2015 #6
spelling police RussBLib Apr 2015 #7
spelling is not my forte AlbertCat Apr 2015 #10
I think the strong backlash to the Indiana law.... RussBLib Apr 2015 #8
Weaponizing the Bible For Sexism beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #9

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. Good choice. :)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:24 AM
Apr 2015

A rational discussion on this topic is hard to have in other groups. The poo-flingers won't allow it. Religion is ALWAYS GOOD and NEVER TO BLAME and if you believe differently, you're a terrible bigoted atheist and no better than Pat Robertson or Osama bin Laden.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. It's just tragic that so many people deny this.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:25 AM
Apr 2015

Without an honest look at history and ALL the factors, we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
4. religion is the way to rationalize the irrational
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:12 AM
Apr 2015

the way to stop science ,progress and wonder by replacing it with tradidtion and conserving small thinking .

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
6. Gramar Police
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:54 PM
Apr 2015

"granting businesses themselves exemptions from laws based on the invocation of religion"


Wait. exemptions from "laws based on the invocation of religion". What laws are based on the invocation of religion?

Misplaced modifier!!!!

How about: "granting businesses themselves exemptions based on the invocation of religion from laws"


Sorry...I can't help it.


Anyway... these new laws are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Religion and its ideas cannot trump the law. The law is supposed to be secular... like our government. If personal convictions trumped laws....well lets just say it's really important to my being to expose myself to strangers....so....

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RussBLib

(9,666 posts)
7. spelling police
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:10 PM
Apr 2015

...and what's with the "Gramar Police"?

Sorry, I can't help it either. Actually, I can, but the irony was too great.

And as for your pic, I think a visit to the doctor would be in order.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
10. spelling is not my forte
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:45 PM
Apr 2015

Actually grammar isn't my forte either.... but unusual mistakes seem to catch my eye.


Spelling...forget it. That's why I edit all my posts 8 or 9 times

RussBLib

(9,666 posts)
8. I think the strong backlash to the Indiana law....
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:51 PM
Apr 2015

...is largely due to the advance of the secular/atheist/agnostic movement. So many people are rejecting religion nowadays that a law such as this is instantly recognized as a relic of discrimination.

This country may still be largely a religious nation, but the numbers of nonbelievers and "none of the above" is growing so fast, and they are becoming so outspoken, that the troglodytes can't get away with this crap any longer.

That, and the internet, which instantly relays news to every corner of the world that wishes to receive it.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. Weaponizing the Bible For Sexism
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:16 PM
Apr 2015
Weaponizing the Bible For Sexism

The Seneca Falls Woman's Rights Convention of 1848 was one of the major gatherings of the women's movement, and is considered to have been one of the turning points for suffragists in particular. In the Declaration of Sentiments and Resolutions the activists there compiled, they specifically included a provision condemning those who would use the Bible to suppress their rights: “Resolved, That woman has too long rested satisfied in the circumscribed limits which corrupt customs and a perverted application of the Scriptures have marked out for her, and that it is time she should move in the enlarged sphere which her great Creator has assigned her.”

Clinging to verses in the Bible that gave unequal status to men and women, opponents of the suffragists justified their beliefs with religious teaching. “Who demand the ballot for woman? They are not the lovers of God, nor are they believers in Christ, as a class. There may be exceptions, but the majority prefer an infidel's cheer to the favor of God and the love of the Christian community. It is because of this tendency that the majority of those who contend for the ballot for woman cut loose from the legislation of Heaven, from the enjoyments of home, and drift to infidelity and ruin,” intoned Justin Fulton, a prominent reverend in 1869.

The religious-based bigotry against women was so intense that Elizabeth Cady Stanton actually wrote The Woman's Bible to directly challenge religious oppression of women. The book's critique of using religion to justify discrimination against women was considered so controversial it not only was denounced by sexists, but also by the National American Woman Suffrage Association, which saw the book as a mistake for the movement.


BIG Elizabeth Cady Stanton fan here.

Blows my mind how many self-proclaimed feminists quickly become apologists for the same religion that forces second class citizenship upon them whenever atheists criticize it.


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